Rating "Fast Classic" Chess
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Ian Thompson
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Rating "Fast Classic" Chess
FIDE has announced that it's considering standard play rating of "Fast Classic" chess.
"Fast Classic" is defined as 45 minutes plus a 30 second increment. Unlike the current arrangements, there are no restrictions on the ratings of the players for the games to be eligible for rating.
Is there any evidence to support FIDE's claim that "The initiative responds to a growing demand from players and organizers to recognize “fast classic.” In modern life, time is increasingly limited, and there is a clear trend toward shorter formats that remain serious and competitive."?
As events played at this time limit are still restricted to a maximum of 2 games per day and won't be eligible for title norms, I'd question whether there would be much demand for this time limit in Open events compared to, say, 90'+30" or 60'+30", the first of which is eligible for title norms. Maybe it has a place in invitation tournaments where the organisers want spectators. In one of the trial events, the teams play each other twice in a day with colours reversed for the second match.
"Fast Classic" is defined as 45 minutes plus a 30 second increment. Unlike the current arrangements, there are no restrictions on the ratings of the players for the games to be eligible for rating.
Is there any evidence to support FIDE's claim that "The initiative responds to a growing demand from players and organizers to recognize “fast classic.” In modern life, time is increasingly limited, and there is a clear trend toward shorter formats that remain serious and competitive."?
As events played at this time limit are still restricted to a maximum of 2 games per day and won't be eligible for title norms, I'd question whether there would be much demand for this time limit in Open events compared to, say, 90'+30" or 60'+30", the first of which is eligible for title norms. Maybe it has a place in invitation tournaments where the organisers want spectators. In one of the trial events, the teams play each other twice in a day with colours reversed for the second match.
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Re: Rating "Fast Classic" Chess
I would have thought it logical that anything between rapid play (one hour maximum) and 90 30 and other four hour move rates should count. Thus it could include all the British 80 10, 105 10, 90 15 etc tournaments.Ian Thompson wrote: ↑Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:50 pmFIDE has announced that it's considering standard play rating of "Fast Classic" chess.
"Fast Classic" is defined as 45 minutes plus a 30 second increment. Unlike the current arrangements, there are no restrictions on the ratings of the players for the games to be eligible for rating.
45 seconds plus 30 is a notional 75 minutes for the game to move 60. So it's like the old adjudication special of 30 moves in 75 minutes, but twice the speed. It would be unwise to use it in league play if the venue had fixed closure times. 65 10, which is an option in some leagues would be better.
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Tim Spanton
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Re: Rating "Fast Classic" Chess
One possible advantage is that it would make evening league games rateable by Fide, thus perhaps doing away with the need for a separate national rating system
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Re: Rating "Fast Classic" Chess
There are just over 9,600 players on the ECF rating list rated 1400 or more, so that leaves several thousand who need a national rating system because they aren't good enough to get a FIDE rating.Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Sat Sep 06, 2025 9:49 pmOne possible advantage is that it would make evening league games rateable by Fide, thus perhaps doing away with the need for a separate national rating system
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Re: Rating "Fast Classic" Chess
Aaah, yes, I was forgetting the Fide floor has been raised from 1000 to 1400
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Re: Rating "Fast Classic" Chess
When did this happen?Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Sat Sep 06, 2025 10:41 pmAaah, yes, I was forgetting the Fide floor has been raised from 1000 to 1400
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Re: Rating "Fast Classic" Chess
At which point any possible direct link between FIDE and ECF ratings disappeared.Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Sat Sep 06, 2025 10:41 pmAaah, yes, I was forgetting the Fide floor has been raised from 1000 to 1400
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