Arafat Gambit

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MJMcCready
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Re: Arafat Gambit

Post by MJMcCready » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:19 pm

I mean the Arafat Gambit. A gambit should have some benefit, usually a lead in development, however short-lived that may be. If you are just dropping a pawn for nothing in return, I don't think the term gambit is the best. 1. e4 f5 isn't a gambit as far as I know.

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Re: Arafat Gambit

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:30 pm

MJMcCready wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:19 pm
I mean the Arafat Gambit. A gambit should have some benefit, usually a lead in development, however short-lived that may be. If you are just dropping a pawn for nothing in return
Clearly not everyone shares your opinion, since a majority of the serious players who have faced it over the board seem to have declined it.

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Re: Arafat Gambit

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:03 pm

MJMcCready wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:19 pm
e4 f5 isn't a gambit as far as I know
Why not? It can certainly be argued it isn't a very good one, but that's a different thing entirely :)
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Re: Arafat Gambit

Post by MJMcCready » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:29 pm

Well I always thought a gambit must have some perceived benefit at the time of discovery otherwise it shouldn't be a gambit. 1. e4 f5 2. exf5 g5 is not a gambit. Nor would 1.e4 d5 2. exd5 c6 3. bxc6 Nf6 4. cxb7 e6 5. bxa8=Q Bc5, be classified as a gambit either.

Has there been an instance of a so-called gambit being stripped of its title for being too theoretically unsound?

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Re: Arafat Gambit

Post by MJMcCready » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:30 pm

If I recall, in 'The Complete Chess Addict' the rather pejoratively titled 'Irish Gambit' makes an appearance.

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Re: Arafat Gambit

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:23 pm

Nick Burrows wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:01 pm
National Master Robert Reynolds, Grandmaster Hellers, Grandmaster Nick DeFirmian, Master Tim McGrew have also played this gambit.
Nick confirms that NM Robert Reynolds introduced this idea in Santa Barbara in the 1960s, where it attracted his name. His own attempts to play it suffered a setback when Larry Christiansen, a regular sparring partner, simply refused to continue the game, saying that it was an affront to chess.

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Re: Arafat Gambit

Post by MJMcCready » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:10 pm

He has a point though, some 'so-called' gambits do look downright stupid. I played in the Nottingham tournament in 1993 and some guy played 'The Paris Gambit' which was just downright daft.

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Re: Arafat Gambit

Post by Nick Grey » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:20 pm

As much as I love gambits with black and white - I'll be tempted in the original position to throw in 2,,,c5.

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Re: Arafat Gambit

Post by MJMcCready » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:24 pm

The Halloween Gambit is the only one I ever play, and only sometimes.

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Re: Arafat Gambit

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:25 pm

MJMcCready wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:30 pm
If I recall, in 'The Complete Chess Addict' the rather pejoratively titled 'Irish Gambit' makes an appearance.
The originator on their deathbed (supposedly) "I didn't see that the pawn was defended" :lol: :lol:
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