World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:35 am

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:25 am
Early win for Emms after an awful blunder from David Cummings.

White to move. (Black's last was Re7 defending b7)

He's doing a Sadler, scoring most of the wins!


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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:32 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:35 am

He's doing a Sadler, scoring most of the wins!
His win against the USA was certainly crucial and he has a very decent +3 on boards 1 and 2. The team has won nine other games though so it's very much a team effort.

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:33 am

Keith's won, so with luck he will now come on to tell us what's happening on the broken board.

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:17 pm

Mark has won to make it 3-0 + whatever happened on board 2.

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by Ian Findlay » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:58 pm

James is up a pawn in 2 rooks and knight vs 2 rooks and bishop. James has the knight. James is probably winning.

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:11 pm

Ian Findlay wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:58 pm
James is up a pawn in 2 rooks and knight vs 2 rooks and bishop. James has the knight. James is probably winning.
Another country heard from ( in a good way! ). Thanks.

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by Keith Arkell » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:39 pm

Jim cant lose and he might get R+h+f v R or he might have a complicated way of doing better than that. Both players are down to seconds plus increment.

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by Stewart Reuben » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:15 pm

It ended up R+h+f v R and James eventually won. So 4-0, but Lasker are still 1 game point ahead of us as they also won 4-0. There are two rounds left. We still have German 1 to play and Lasker the USA, who we beat, but who are top seeds.

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:20 pm

Round 8 pairings:

Nr. Heimmannschaft Gastmannschaft Ergebnis
1. Lasker Schachstiftung GK - United States :
2. England 1 - Schachfreunde Leipzig 1 :
3. Schachfreunde Leipzig 2 - Germany 1

Lasker & England are on 13 match points, USA 12 and the next score group is on 10.

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:37 pm

Nine rounds, isn't it? So a win in round 8 would guarantee a medal, and if the USA can beat (or draw) with Lasker, then England 1 would be leading going into the final round. Surely England 1 will play Germany 1 in the final round?

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:00 pm

Great result today; hope for another tomorrow, and USA winning or drawing pairings

There are 8 teams on 10 points rankings, so there may be other possible final round opponents than Germany 1
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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by Tim Harding » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:44 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:00 pm
Great result today; hope for another tomorrow, and USA winning or drawing pairings

There are 8 teams on 10 points rankings, so there may be other possible final round opponents than Germany 1
Here is an analysis of the present situation and how it's likely to look before pairing the last round.
Let's look on the bright side and assume ENG win and reach 15 MP and Lasker don't beat USA. (Even if Lasker do win, but by a smaller margin, then ENG might take the lead or be tied on GP.)

Other key pairings between teams on 10 MP are:
Leipzig-2 v Germany-1
Canada v Germany-2
Grobenzell v Austria
and finally
Russia Women (9) v Brabant (10).
With several others on 9 playing each other,

In any case whatever the results in the matches USA (12) v Lasker (13) and ENG (13 MP) v Leipzig-1 (10), there will be three teams looking for downfloats to complicate the situation.

If results favour pairings (e.g. wins for Brabant, Austria and one of the teams in the Canada match) then the three leading teams will not have to seek opponents beyond a group on 12 MP.

But awkward results (such as a win for Russia Women) could reduce the pool of available opponents and the draw might have to take into consideration one team on 11 MP (i.e. possibly a team currently on 9).

As England are the only one of the three leaders who have not yet played GER-1, they will I think have to meet them in the last round. I cannot see GER-1 failing to beat Leipzig-2. Even a draw on that match would probably result in ENG playing GER-1.

England can also play Germany-2, Austria or Brabant if they are available for pairing. They have already played Canada, Grobenzell and of course the other two leaders.

ENG are the only leaders yet to meet GER-1.

USA could play Germany-2, Canada and Brabant. Laskers could play Canada, Grobenzell or Brabant, and at most three of them can reach 12, but it's possible that NONE of four mentioned teams will be on 12 MP. It will require TWO of them to win their matches for Lasker and USA to be paired without going down to the 11 group.

For example, a win for Germany-2 and draw or loss for Brabant would mean USA meeting GER-2 and Lasker having to play a team on 11 MP.
So it's clear that England have a favourable draw tomorrow but probably a much harder last round match.

That's probably why our star player John Emms is taking a rest.

I hope I have worked out the above correctly. It has got very hot again here today and sleeping may be difficult for the players.

The 65+ is more straightforward. Russia are on a perfect 14 and will win gold with a round to spare if they beat Germany-1 (Sveshnikov v Hort on top board) and Germany-2 can hold St Petersburg (who are on 12) to a draw at least.
The German teams and St Petersburg are contending for silver but there are a few teams that might in theory have a shot at bronze if all results went their way.
France have not played any of the four just above them strangely, so will probably get Russia in the last round. Their chances were ruined by a shock loss in round 3 to a German club, Hessische Musketeers.

Everything will be clearer tomorrow night.
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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:06 pm

1. Lasker Schachstiftung GK 2510 - United States 2538 :
1. GM Alexander Graf 2561 - GM Alexander Shabalov 2567 :
2. GM Artur Jussupow 2580 - GM Joel Benjamin 2544 :
3. GM Felix Levin 2468 - GM Jaan Ehlvest 2536 :
4. GM Jakob Meister 2432 - GM Alex Yermolinsky 2505 :

2. England 1 2444 - Schachfreunde Leipzig 1 2219 :
1. GM Jon S Speelman 2493 - CM Steffen Weitzer 2288 :
2. GM H James Plaskett 2455 - Andreas Schultz 2211 :
3. GM Mark L Hebden 2423 - FM Manfred Schoeneberg 2199 :
4. GM Keith C Arkell 2406 - FM Thomas Gempe 2178

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:35 am

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:37 pm
Nine rounds, isn't it? So a win in round 8 would guarantee a medal, and if the USA can beat (or draw) with Lasker, then England 1 would be leading going into the final round. Surely England 1 will play Germany 1 in the final round?
Early signs are encouraging for the USA with both whites looking promising and the black's comfortable. England's only concern is Jim seemingly missing 17 Rxd6 winning a pawn but hopefully the others can cancel out and overcome the potential damage on that board. Board 1 is certainly promising but I won't tempt fate by talking up our chances too much.

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Re: World Senior Team Championships, Dresden 2018

Post by Thomas Rendle » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:43 am

I will! I think we'll be fine today and it'll all come down to the final round tomorrow! :twisted:

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