2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:19 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:26 am
Nepo wins to move to +2

The other 3 games were drawn, so Gukesh and Caruana on +1

Rest day next
Pragg on 2 and Abasov, Firouzja, Nakamura & Vidit on 1.5.

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:36 am

TWIC
Can Nepomniachtchi win the Candidates for a third time in a row? Already I personally wouldn't bet against it, his fault of being a bit casual sometimes is infinitely better than being too tense, a problem that I sense Santosh Vidit has.
Round 5 9th April at 19:30BST: Firouzja-Nakamura, Gukesh-Abasov, Vidit-Caruana, Praggnanandhaa-Nepomniachtchi.
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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by AustinElliott » Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:05 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:26 am
Nepo wins to move to +2

The other 3 games were drawn, so Gukesh and Caruana on +1

Rest day next
Anyone else getting the impression that bits of Carlsen's playing style have rubbed off on Nepo after their 2021 match?

Kept thinking all the way through yesterday's win by Nepo that he was playing 'chess Magnus style', from the opening choice all the way through the unhurried middle-game maneuvering to the felt-inexorable pressure in a complex endgame.

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:23 pm

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Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:04 am
The world eagerly awaits Ding vs Nepo II
Whilst it is totally understandable that many of us aren't totally thrilled at the thought of Nepo contesting three WC finals in a row, his evident determination to reach the summit again - after what must have been two pretty crushing reverses, even if they were somewhat different in character - is surely admirable. It at least shows that he is not lacking in mental strength.
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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:17 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:23 pm
Nick Burrows wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:04 am
The world eagerly awaits Ding vs Nepo II
Whilst it is totally understandable that many of us aren't totally thrilled at the thought of Nepo contesting three WC finals in a row, his evident determination to reach the summit again - after what must have been two pretty crushing reverses, even if they were somewhat different in character - is surely admirable. It at least shows that he is not lacking in mental strength.
If Praggnanandhaa can win against Nepo from his currently advantageous position, that will throw the tournament wide open (though Nepo was not exactly running away with it).

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:04 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:17 pm
Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:23 pm
Nick Burrows wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:04 am
The world eagerly awaits Ding vs Nepo II
Whilst it is totally understandable that many of us aren't totally thrilled at the thought of Nepo contesting three WC finals in a row, his evident determination to reach the summit again - after what must have been two pretty crushing reverses, even if they were somewhat different in character - is surely admirable. It at least shows that he is not lacking in mental strength.
If Praggnanandhaa can win against Nepo from his currently advantageous position, that will throw the tournament wide open (though Nepo was not exactly running away with it).
I'm guessing that was posted before he missed 26 Qe5 :oops:

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:21 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:04 pm
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:17 pm
Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:23 pm


Whilst it is totally understandable that many of us aren't totally thrilled at the thought of Nepo contesting three WC finals in a row, his evident determination to reach the summit again - after what must have been two pretty crushing reverses, even if they were somewhat different in character - is surely admirable. It at least shows that he is not lacking in mental strength.
If Praggnanandhaa can win against Nepo from his currently advantageous position, that will throw the tournament wide open (though Nepo was not exactly running away with it).
I'm guessing that was posted before he missed 26 Qe5 :oops:
Indeed. I might have seen that this sets up the threat of Rxh6+, but I would likely have missed the follow up with Rg6, Rxg7+, Qd5+ and Qxa8 which wins a pawn (and the game), but I would have expected Praggnanandhaa to see that. Wonder why he missed it? :?:

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:38 pm

Pragg is hardly doing badly, even so.

In other games, Abasov now appears to be struggling a bit.
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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:19 am

Nakamura has beaten Firouzja

Abasov doing well to hold a draw at the moment against Gukesh. Other two games drawn.

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:45 am

Oops. I jinxed Abasov. He blundered. Two decisive games. Nepo and Gukesh lead by half a point from Caruana.

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Nick Burrows » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:57 am

Two very important matchups this evening:

Gukesh D - Hikaru Nakamura
an Nepomniachtchi - Fabiano Caruana

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:42 pm

Even better, if things carry on in this fashion, they are (with colours reversed, of course) the final round pairings too.

On the whole though, Nepo has clearly done the best so far. He has had three Blacks (and 100% with white), and in all five games has got the best result possible from the positions he has had. He has survived the first scary moment that every candidate must face occasionally (his game v Pragg yesterday), and he still has White v Abasov to come. This matters since whereas Nepo is "win with White and draw with black", Abasov so far has been "draw with White and lose with Black" - and within the chasing pack, Caruana and Gukesh have already played their White v Abasov.

Added to that, one notices that Nepo now has 3/3 v Firouzja in this candidates' and the last. That need not mean anything, but then again ... it might, and Firouzja is capable of overplaying his hand even, or perhaps especially, with White.

For reasons I cannot explain, even to myself, I have never especially supported Nepo, but my admiration for him has been steadily increasing. He would be only the second person ever to win the candidates' race three times (after Karpov) and the first to do so in its present format, indeed in this format only one other player (Smyslov) did do so even twice.

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:11 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:42 pm
Nepo is "win with White and draw with black",
He has the hoover out today against Fabi so I expect a draw any moment now.

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:25 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:11 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:42 pm
Nepo is "win with White and draw with black",
He has the hoover out today against Fabi so I expect a draw any moment now.
They dragged it out to move 41 before the inevitable draw. Alireza is in big trouble against Vidit.

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Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:33 pm

Pragg hasn't thrown away another big advantage, surely?
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