Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

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Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Poll ended at Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:05 am

Arkady Dvorkovich
5
11%
Georgios Makropoulos
9
20%
Nigel Short
22
48%
None of the Above
10
22%
 
Total votes: 46

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Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:05 am

Following confirmation of Kirsan Ilyumzhinov's withdrawal, I have created this second poll.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Chris Rice » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:17 am

I'm wondering whether Ilyumzhinov really will be gone though. Looking at the latest Peter Doggers article on this:

"In an interview with Sport Express, Dvorkovich today hinted at a cooperation with Ilyumzhinov: "I think that a lot has been done in recent years. The team of Ilyumzhinov is doing a great job in promoting our sport all over the world. We talked with Kirsan Nikolayevich, and I expect that he will support my candidacy. He has a huge experience, which I hope to use."

Nigel took Kirsan's withdrawal well on Twitter:

"Kirsan is finally consigned to the garbage-can of history after decades of disgracefully being kept in power by @makro_chess, The Kalmyk's last blunder was nominating the non-existent Glen Stark on his ticket, rather than Elvis - who is popular. the king, & lives."

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:27 am

JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:38 pm
Dvorkovich team

Deputy President: Bachar Kouatly (France)
Vice Presidents: Mahir Mamedov (Azerbaijan), Julio Granda (Peru)
General Secretary: Enyonam Sewa Fumey (Togo)
Treasurer: Zhu Chen (Qatar/China)
Angus French wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:57 pm
Julio Granda, Zhu Chen and Bachar Kouatly at least are all very decent players.
NickFaulks wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:15 pm
This presumably means that Dvorkovich has the support of the French federation. I did not expect that.
For clarification, Bachar Kouatly is:

a) a Grandmaster;

b) a rival to Florencio Campomanes and Kirsan Ilyumzhinov in the 1990s;

c) the current President of the FFE (French Chess Federation).
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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:27 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:17 am
I'm wondering whether Ilyumzhinov really will be gone though.
Campomanes hung around for years in honorary positions.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:30 am

Grand Chess Tour personnel, previously split two ways, are now split three ways.

As the Chief Arbiter of the said Tour, my position is one of strict neutrality.

Hence. breaking the habit of a lifetime, I am seeking to refrain from expressing my opinion on these threads.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:37 am

A minor piece of news is that Lewis Ncube, the President of the African Chess Confederation, has declared for Dvorkovich. Previously Ncube was Ilyumzhinov's only remaining supporter on the FIDE Presidential Board.

https://www.chess.com/news/view/russian ... dvorkovich

Enyonam Fumey, until recently ACC General Secretary, is the candidate for FIDE General Secretary on the Dvorkovich ticket.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Chris Rice » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:42 am

Kevin Spraggett talks up the plus points for Dvorkovich:

"This group of individuals does not contain any controversy or history. Furthermore, each is likely to have strong influence on getting regional votes. I especially like the inclusion of Peru’s Julio Granda, a personal friend of my wife and I. I have no doubt that he will bring a large slice of South American votes with him."

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:55 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:02 pm
Okay then. £50 at evens that, if Ilyumzhinov stands, you support him in preference to any other candidate who stands.
NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:11 pm
Done.
My thanks to Arkady Dvorkovich for saving me £50.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:33 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:42 am
I especially like the inclusion of Peru’s Julio Granda, a personal friend of my wife and I. I have no doubt that he will bring a large slice of South American votes with him."
If Latin America is really in play then we may have a contest. However, Granda Zuniga is a lone wolf and I do not know whether he even brings Peru's vote.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Graham Borrowdale » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:54 am

It would be nice to think that the Peruvian, and every other chess federation, would consider the merits of the cases made by each of the candidates and then choose which one to vote for. As they say, no votes have been cast yet.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:39 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:05 am
Following confirmation of Kirsan Ilyumzhinov's withdrawal, I have created this second poll.
Where's "none of the above"?
"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:40 am

JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:39 am
Where's "none of the above"?
Sorry, I forgot.:oops:

Carl, is it possible to edit the poll?

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:47 am

JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:39 am
David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:05 am
Following confirmation of Kirsan Ilyumzhinov's withdrawal, I have created this second poll.
Where's "none of the above"?
I noticed that, but in the end, the ECF has to vote for someone, even if it is the least worst candidate (which would be Nigel in my view)
Any postings on here represent my personal views and should not be taken as representative of the Manchester Chess Federation www.manchesterchess.co.uk

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:49 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:47 am
JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:39 am
David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:05 am
Following confirmation of Kirsan Ilyumzhinov's withdrawal, I have created this second poll.
Where's "none of the above"?
I noticed that, but in the end, the ECF has to vote for someone, even if it is the least worst candidate (which would be Nigel in my view)
It's not actually compulsory, as I understand it.
"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:50 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:40 am
JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:39 am
Where's "none of the above"?
Sorry, I forgot.:oops:

Carl, is it possible to edit the poll?
I can add it but I think the poll count resets?
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