Re: Altibox Norway 2019 - the future of chess?
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:16 pm
Grischuk-So halved out in under 15 minutes so be quick if you want to catch the armageddon game.
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The armageddon game also ended in a draw (which obviously suited So as black) but took longer than the classic gameDavid Robertson wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:19 pmGrischuk - So - Drawn in under ten minutes. Just taking the p!ss. One of the worst games you'll ever see. Utter farce!
An increment of as little as two seconds cuts through it. The trouble is that the people with the money - ie the St Louis crowd and now the Norwegians - seem to view this shambles as a feature not a bug. Perhaps they know their paying audience, but top players will have to get used to their role as well fed and watered circus animals.David Robertson wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:02 pmWho hasn't been there in a local QPF or similar, losing on time amid random moves and chaos. At elite level, it's going to ruin the game
And at local level, when we argue at AGMs in favour of increments, the elite level shambles doesn't helpDavid Robertson wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:02 pmNice tweet here from Olimpiu Urcan showing the frustration (and disgust?) on Grischuk's face at the nonsense required of them in the Aronian - Grischuk Armageddon. Who hasn't been there in a local QPF or similar, losing on time amid random moves and chaos. At elite level, it's going to ruin the game
Paying?
Grischuk made the comment that he accepted the invite, so he can't complain. But that's the point, if organisers are going to throw money at the top players, and the top players are prepared to turn up and play, then so it goes.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:33 pmbut top players will have to get used to their role as well fed and watered circus animals.
Even though increments are *not* being used here?Mick Norris wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:10 pmAnd at local level, when we argue at AGMs in favour of increments, the elite level shambles doesn't helpDavid Robertson wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:02 pmNice tweet here from Olimpiu Urcan showing the frustration (and disgust?) on Grischuk's face at the nonsense required of them in the Aronian - Grischuk Armageddon. Who hasn't been there in a local QPF or similar, losing on time amid random moves and chaos. At elite level, it's going to ruin the game
Alex Holowczak wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:17 pmI suspect it may be more to do with the organisers and broadcasters.
Hmm...
We argue against QP finishes, and people who don't want to change say, well they don't use increments in Norway/St LouisMatt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:22 pmEven though increments are *not* being used here?Mick Norris wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:10 pmAnd at local level, when we argue at AGMs in favour of increments, the elite level shambles doesn't helpDavid Robertson wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:02 pmNice tweet here from Olimpiu Urcan showing the frustration (and disgust?) on Grischuk's face at the nonsense required of them in the Aronian - Grischuk Armageddon. Who hasn't been there in a local QPF or similar, losing on time amid random moves and chaos. At elite level, it's going to ruin the game