Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
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Jonathan Rogers
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Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
I have been pondering over various puzzles over the last few days. Then, I had some kind of epiphany on a bus today when I solved two of them in my head within minutes of each other. See how you compare
1) a chessbase puzzle - construct a game which White wins by playing 6 gxf8 = N mate. There is only one possible solution. If you have a line where move order doesn't always matter, you have already gone wrong.
2) a puzzle (among many) sent by my Essex team captain - and it's maths now: a x bc = def. Each of these letters represents a different one of the numbers between 1-6. Which is which? (Or of you prefer, how do you multiply a single digit number by a double digit number to get a three digit number, using each digit from 1-6 once?)
1) a chessbase puzzle - construct a game which White wins by playing 6 gxf8 = N mate. There is only one possible solution. If you have a line where move order doesn't always matter, you have already gone wrong.
2) a puzzle (among many) sent by my Essex team captain - and it's maths now: a x bc = def. Each of these letters represents a different one of the numbers between 1-6. Which is which? (Or of you prefer, how do you multiply a single digit number by a double digit number to get a three digit number, using each digit from 1-6 once?)
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JustinHadi
Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
On 2) the digit 1 must be in def (I think!, quick trial and error)Jonathan Rogers wrote:I have been pondering over various puzzles over the last few days. Then, I had some kind of epiphany on a bus today when I solved two of them in my head within minutes of each other. See how you compare
1) a chessbase puzzle - construct a game which White wins by playing 6 gxf8 = N mate. There is only one possible solution. If you have a line where move order doesn't always matter, you have already gone wrong.
2) a puzzle (among many) sent by my Essex team captain - and it's maths now: a x bc = def. Each of these letters represents a different one of the numbers between 1-6. Which is which? (Or of you prefer, how do you multiply a single digit number by a double digit number to get a three digit number, using each digit from 1-6 once?)
EDIT and probably 5 must be b c or d as well.
Last edited by JustinHadi on Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Jonathan Rogers
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
Yes, you're on your way.
I wish I had started there!
I wish I had started there!
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Richard Bates
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
1) Being a Kings indian player might help! Used to Knights ending up in strange places... 
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JustinHadi
Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
I can do 2) but not 1) time to take up the King's Indian...
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
I've solved (2), but have not yet proved uniqueness.
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JustinHadi
Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
The question assumes uniqueness but it can be proved via elimination if nothing else.
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
Got one (well half remembered it). The h1 Rook figures in the solution.
There is a guy on RHP who sets all kinds of these retro puzzles, this one included.
He drive me mad. I keep saying I won't look, I won't bother and
yet I soon find myself spending ages looking at the bloody thing.
No idea about number two.
There is a guy on RHP who sets all kinds of these retro puzzles, this one included.
He drive me mad. I keep saying I won't look, I won't bother and
yet I soon find myself spending ages looking at the bloody thing.
No idea about number two.
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Alistair Campbell
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
Geoff Chandler wrote: The h1 Rook figures in the solution.
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Jonathan Rogers
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
Not?! Pray do tell!
Together, Richard and Geoff have provided very helpful clues.
Together, Richard and Geoff have provided very helpful clues.
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Alistair Campbell
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
Oops
- mine was 6. exf8=N mate. Always read the question. Apologies. As you were...
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Jonathan Rogers
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
As a matter of curiosity, how do you get there with 6 exf8 =N mate?
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
Thanks for these Jonathan. 2 didn't take long when I worked out where 5 and 1 had to be. 1 took much longer as I couldn't envisage a position which had a unique move order, but I have it now. If you want a clue, Jonathan should give it but I suggest giving Black's first move.
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Richard Bates
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
I can see a couple of solutions, each i think with their own unique move orders, one involving 1...e6 and 1...e5 (otherwise basically equivalent). It's a shame because (assuming no other solutions) it would otherwise make just as nice a puzzle as the original question.Jonathan Rogers wrote:As a matter of curiosity, how do you get there with 6 exf8 =N mate?
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles
Just to check the solutions are the same as the ones I'm thinking of - the queens are on d5 and h4, right?Richard Bates wrote:I can see a couple of solutions, each i think with their own unique move orders, one involving 1...e6 and 1...e5 (otherwise basically equivalent). It's a shame because (assuming no other solutions) it would otherwise make just as nice a puzzle as the original question.Jonathan Rogers wrote:As a matter of curiosity, how do you get there with 6 exf8 =N mate?