Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

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Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:42 pm

I have been pondering over various puzzles over the last few days. Then, I had some kind of epiphany on a bus today when I solved two of them in my head within minutes of each other. See how you compare

1) a chessbase puzzle - construct a game which White wins by playing 6 gxf8 = N mate. There is only one possible solution. If you have a line where move order doesn't always matter, you have already gone wrong.

2) a puzzle (among many) sent by my Essex team captain - and it's maths now: a x bc = def. Each of these letters represents a different one of the numbers between 1-6. Which is which? (Or of you prefer, how do you multiply a single digit number by a double digit number to get a three digit number, using each digit from 1-6 once?)

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by JustinHadi » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:50 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:I have been pondering over various puzzles over the last few days. Then, I had some kind of epiphany on a bus today when I solved two of them in my head within minutes of each other. See how you compare

1) a chessbase puzzle - construct a game which White wins by playing 6 gxf8 = N mate. There is only one possible solution. If you have a line where move order doesn't always matter, you have already gone wrong.

2) a puzzle (among many) sent by my Essex team captain - and it's maths now: a x bc = def. Each of these letters represents a different one of the numbers between 1-6. Which is which? (Or of you prefer, how do you multiply a single digit number by a double digit number to get a three digit number, using each digit from 1-6 once?)
On 2) the digit 1 must be in def (I think!, quick trial and error)

EDIT and probably 5 must be b c or d as well.
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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:54 pm

Yes, you're on your way.

I wish I had started there!

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by Richard Bates » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:03 pm

1) Being a Kings indian player might help! Used to Knights ending up in strange places... ;)

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by JustinHadi » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:08 pm

I can do 2) but not 1) time to take up the King's Indian...

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:57 pm

I've solved (2), but have not yet proved uniqueness.

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by JustinHadi » Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:45 pm

The question assumes uniqueness but it can be proved via elimination if nothing else.

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by Geoff Chandler » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:47 pm

Got one (well half remembered it). The h1 Rook figures in the solution.
There is a guy on RHP who sets all kinds of these retro puzzles, this one included.

He drive me mad. I keep saying I won't look, I won't bother and
yet I soon find myself spending ages looking at the bloody thing.

No idea about number two.

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by Alistair Campbell » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:21 pm

Geoff Chandler wrote: The h1 Rook figures in the solution.
:shock: Not in my "solution"...

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:28 pm

Not?! Pray do tell!

Together, Richard and Geoff have provided very helpful clues.

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by Alistair Campbell » Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:46 pm

Oops :oops: - mine was 6. exf8=N mate. Always read the question. Apologies. As you were...

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:00 pm

As a matter of curiosity, how do you get there with 6 exf8 =N mate?

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by Simon Brown » Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:59 pm

Thanks for these Jonathan. 2 didn't take long when I worked out where 5 and 1 had to be. 1 took much longer as I couldn't envisage a position which had a unique move order, but I have it now. If you want a clue, Jonathan should give it but I suggest giving Black's first move.

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by Richard Bates » Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:53 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:As a matter of curiosity, how do you get there with 6 exf8 =N mate?
I can see a couple of solutions, each i think with their own unique move orders, one involving 1...e6 and 1...e5 (otherwise basically equivalent). It's a shame because (assuming no other solutions) it would otherwise make just as nice a puzzle as the original question.

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Re: Thinking on Boxing Day - difficult but solvable puzzles

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:45 pm

Richard Bates wrote:
Jonathan Rogers wrote:As a matter of curiosity, how do you get there with 6 exf8 =N mate?
I can see a couple of solutions, each i think with their own unique move orders, one involving 1...e6 and 1...e5 (otherwise basically equivalent). It's a shame because (assuming no other solutions) it would otherwise make just as nice a puzzle as the original question.
Just to check the solutions are the same as the ones I'm thinking of - the queens are on d5 and h4, right?

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