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Tech mate? Top grandmaster claims chess is riddled with cheats using smartphones

Post by John Upham » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:38 pm

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Re: Tech mate? Top grandmaster claims chess is riddled with cheats using smartphones

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:57 pm

"Top grandmaster" is an interesting description of someone with a world ranking of 944, but whatever.

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Re: Tech mate? Top grandmaster claims chess is riddled with cheats using smartphones

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:39 pm

You have to catch people walking round with live smartphones rather than make vague accusations about players making unexpected improvement. Otherwise as Danny himself describes regarding one of his Hastings games, improbable computer style moves are pre-game rather than during game suggestions.

http://en.chessbase.com/post/the-komodo ... s-engine-2



The tactical point is that 7. .. Nxc3 can be met by 8. bxc3 thereby defending the b5 Bishop. Still it's not an easy idea to see unless either you spotted someone else play it using a database, or researched it yourself with a tame engine.

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Post by JonManley » Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:16 pm

I see that Danny's now chosen a new career.
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Re: Tech mate? Top grandmaster claims chess is riddled with cheats using smartphones

Post by Niall Doran » Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:02 pm

Cheating using smartphones does exist in chess, but it's probably not too common. I'm aware of an example of someone who nipped to the loo very regularly on their own time (which is rare enough), had made huge strides in the space of a couple of years, but only in standard play. Their rapid and blitz ratings stayed the same. Nothing was ever proven, but the person left chess after a couple of years.
To be honest, I don't think an amateur who cheats can get away with it for long, people eventually get suspicious, the abriters hear about it and keep a close eye on them every time they go to the loo.

At GM level, I suppose it's possible that in über-complex positions, the GM can have his partner-in-crime communicate the correct move to him in whatever way it's done. The only problem is that the economics of chess, i.e. the prizes are just about enough for a GM to scrape a living, don't make that feasible. Basically the GM will find himself having to win enough to pay for two people to make a living, him/herself and the person transmitting the moves.

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Re: Tech mate? Top grandmaster claims chess is riddled with cheats using smartphones

Post by Brian Towers » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:51 am

Niall Doran wrote:At GM level, I suppose it's possible that in über-complex positions, the GM can have his partner-in-crime communicate the correct move to him in whatever way it's done.
Different flavoured yoghurts is, I believe, the traditional method ;-)
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Re: Tech mate? Top grandmaster claims chess is riddled with cheats using smartphones

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:32 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:You have to catch people walking round with live smartphones rather than make vague accusations about players making unexpected improvement.
The article is based on statements The Gorm made on twitter. Other recent tweets of his include:-

the announcement of his plan to have a sex change and enter the next Women’s World Chess Championship;
a reference to a comment he made on the Daily Mail’s website;
a complaint that he is very bored.


Before giving this story too much attention it is perhaps worth considering the possibility that he didn’t give the 'chess is full of cheats' tweet an awful lot of thought before he hit the send button.

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