Snow Cancellations

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MartinCarpenter
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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by MartinCarpenter » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:47 am

I'd definitely expect to be able to claim a walk over win under those circumstances myself.

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Michael Flatt » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:07 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:33 am
Michael Flatt wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:16 pm
Some captains have mistakenly interpreted this as their opponents having defaulted the match.
When the home team unilaterally cancels a match with the travelling team still keen to go, that does seem understandable.
Cancellation due to adverse weather is concerned with the safety of individuals.
As SCCU County Match Controller I have no reason to dispute their cancellation of any of today's matches.

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Graham Borrowdale » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:02 pm

Michael Flatt wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:07 pm
Cancellation due to adverse weather is concerned with the safety of individuals.
As SCCU County Match Controller I have no reason to dispute their cancellation of any of today's matches.
That sounds entirely sensible, we all want to play chess after all. As for claiming matches by default, I fail to see the point. As a player I want to play, and qualifying for the ECF stages as a result of winning a match by default has no appeal.

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:02 pm

Michael Flatt wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:07 pm
NickFaulks wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:33 am
Michael Flatt wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:16 pm
Some captains have mistakenly interpreted this as their opponents having defaulted the match.
When the home team unilaterally cancels a match with the travelling team still keen to go, that does seem understandable.
Cancellation due to adverse weather is concerned with the safety of individuals.
As SCCU County Match Controller I have no reason to dispute their cancellation of any of today's matches.
Isn't that judgement up to the teams to decide for themselves, rather than the SCCU County Match Controller? In the MCCU, the county matches that were cancelled were cancelled by mutual agreement.

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by MartinCarpenter » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:01 pm

Well, if there's a dispute then someone has to stand in.

The point with claiming a rearrangement is that a fair few players have to juggle their weekends months in advance to fit big chess matches in. Rearrange things totally and they really, really don't like you!

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Michael Flatt » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:06 am

I'm impressed at how speedily SCCU captains are managing to reschedule their matches that were weather affected.

I should be in a position to confirm SCCU nominations for the ECF competition shortly after receiving results of matches that will be played on the 24th March.

There does remain uncertainty, however, over the dates of the ECF County Championships since they are not yet available on the ECF website:
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/competit ... onships-2/

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:14 am

Michael Flatt wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:06 am
I'm impressed at how speedily SCCU captains are managing to reschedule their matches that were weather affected.

I should be in a position to confirm SCCU nominations for the ECF competition shortly after receiving results of matches that will be played on the 24th March.

There does remain uncertainty, however, over the dates of the ECF County Championships since they are not yet available on the ECF website:
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/competit ... onships-2/
Only by people who haven't read the rules, or are trying to cause a kerfuffle. The rules are on the previous year's page, and they haven't changed.

Of course, if there were a Controller, things might appear on that page already.

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Michael Flatt » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:35 am

ECF County Championships 2018
2017 Rules wrote:D3.1. Matches shall be played on, or by mutual agreement before, or on the Sunday immediately following, the dates here listed:

Preliminary Round – Fourth Saturday in April
Quarter Finals (Open, Minor, Under 160, Under 120) – Second Saturday in May
Quarter Finals (Under 180, Under 140, Under 100) – Third Saturday in May
Semi-Finals – Second Saturday in June
Finals – First Saturday in July

These dates may be varied by the Director of Home Chess not later than 31st October in each season and shall be notified within 7 days to Union Controllers. Notwithstanding the date of the Finals, they shall be graded in the same grading list as the rest of the Final Stage Matches.

This season, the default dates are: April 22, May 13/20, June 10, and the Finals will be played on July 1.
2018 Season
Preliminary Round: 28th April
Quarter Finals (Open, Minor, Under 160, Under 120): 12th May
Quarter Finals (Under 180, Under 140, Under 100): 19th May
Semi-Finals: 9th June
Finals: 7th July

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:46 am

Michael Flatt wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:35 am
ECF County Championships 2018
2017 Rules wrote:D3.1. Matches shall be played on, or by mutual agreement before, or on the Sunday immediately following, the dates here listed:

Preliminary Round – Fourth Saturday in April
Quarter Finals (Open, Minor, Under 160, Under 120) – Second Saturday in May
Quarter Finals (Under 180, Under 140, Under 100) – Third Saturday in May
Semi-Finals – Second Saturday in June
Finals – First Saturday in July

These dates may be varied by the Director of Home Chess not later than 31st October in each season and shall be notified within 7 days to Union Controllers. Notwithstanding the date of the Finals, they shall be graded in the same grading list as the rest of the Final Stage Matches.

This season, the default dates are: April 22, May 13/20, June 10, and the Finals will be played on July 1.
2018 Season
Preliminary Round: 28th April
Quarter Finals (Open, Minor, Under 160, Under 120): 12th May
Quarter Finals (Under 180, Under 140, Under 100): 19th May
Semi-Finals: 9th June
Finals: 7th July
There you go. Simples. :)

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:40 am

Let's hope neither Somerset nor Gloucestershire ends up in the preliminary round, then, because that's when we've rescheduled our match for.

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:19 pm

Lancs playing Yorks today in the Open

Venue in Greater Manchester of course

Horner Macklin and Morrison playing for Lancs I gather Alan Walton on 3 for Yorks
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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Alan Walton » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:35 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:19 pm
Lancs playing Yorks today in the Open

Venue in Greater Manchester of course
I made it to Bury for that match; it was still quite deep in parts, but nothing in Bury; 3Cs cancelled a match on Wednesday because of snow; it was nearly a foot deep so a wise decision

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:44 pm

Yes snow mostly gone in Bolton
Who won?
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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by Alan Walton » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:53 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:44 pm
Yes snow mostly gone in Bolton
Who won?
Not sure when I left Yorkshire were one up with 6 to play; look tight though

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Re: Snow Cancellations

Post by MartinCarpenter » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:55 pm

It'll be a really good result if Yorkshire do win it with our top boards out.

Apparently Jeff was board 1 50 years ago as well as today.

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