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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:00 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
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Any point trying to calculate the tiebreaks for England? Or is it not a simple calculation? (Thomas Rendle estimated 7th place above.)
Same, but simpler, question about board 3 prizes - Cori gets gold; Kramnik & Piorun both drew, does David overtake either with a win today?
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:01 pm

I'm thinking an England win would put them above France, either India or Poland (but not both) and between two and four of the teams playing one another, so 5th to 7th?
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Paul Cooksey » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:07 pm

I'm confident I could lose Tomczak-Adhiban with either colour. So maybe some life in that match.

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Paul Cooksey » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:09 pm

the computer hates rf6 from Jones, although in his case possible is deliberate risk taking to keep the game going

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:11 pm

Tomczak perhaps the more likely loser, though, since he has to play for a win given that Poland are out of the medals if he draws (and may even win gold if he wins) whereas India are out of the medals regardless.
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:14 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:09 pm
the computer hates rf6 from Jones, although in his case possible is deliberate risk taking to keep the game going
Why would he do that?
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:17 pm

Meanwhile Jennifer Wu has finally lost, and it looks like Irina Krush is going the same way.
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Paul Cooksey » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:22 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:14 pm
Paul Cooksey wrote:
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the computer hates rf6 from Jones, although in his case possible is deliberate risk taking to keep the game going
Why would he do that?
If it was the last round of an open and he was playing a player 200 points lower than him I think he would definitely rather play a complex ending where he is worse than allow a draw. He is better at endings and more willing to take risks than most GMs. The match does not depend on his game.

I might be coming up with a complex reason where none exists and he simply misassessed, by computer standards, the position.

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:29 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:17 pm
Meanwhile Jennifer Wu has finally lost, and it looks like Irina Krush is going the same way.
Now both Muzychuks have won, Ukraine are 3-0 and unless something extraordinary happens in this game they will win the gold medals. The USA will end up with nothing which is a shame.
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:30 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:22 pm

I might be coming up with a complex reason where none exists and he simply misassessed, by computer standards, the position.
I'm thinking he surely must have, because until England actually have the match in the bag, he's not going to be thinking about anything other than a half, is he?
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:33 pm

Mickey has won, as has David :D
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Leonard Barden » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:41 pm

Looks like Armenia may only 2-2 and that's also possible in CZE-UKR, so sixth or even fifth place is now definitely on the cards.

Either would be our best placing since fourth in 1996.

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:43 pm

Yes, I'm not inclined to believe the advertised 1-0 result of Bluebaum v Melkumyan
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:48 pm

Does Gawain's result affect our tie-break?

(Computer thinks he is totally lost now after 55...Kg7.)

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Thomas Rendle » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:50 pm

Tiredness playing it's part on both sides but with White down on time will find it difficult to finish off. I don't think it affects the tiebreaks