FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man
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FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man
This starts next week (10-21 October) and features Carlsen, Caruana and a lot of other top players. It's another World Championship qualifier.
The Grand Swiss is an 11-rounder with games starting at 3pm each day apart from the last round. From the entry list looks like we've got around 119 players playing in this section. Interesting the way they have the rating qualifier numbers next to the names.
There is a Major and Minor as well with a few forumites in it so we should be well catered for regarding on the spot reports.
The Grand Swiss is an 11-rounder with games starting at 3pm each day apart from the last round. From the entry list looks like we've got around 119 players playing in this section. Interesting the way they have the rating qualifier numbers next to the names.
There is a Major and Minor as well with a few forumites in it so we should be well catered for regarding on the spot reports.
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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man
Claimed to be the "strongest Swiss ever" even after the withdrawal of Giri and Lenier D-P.
I wonder if there is any way of "scientifically" testing this claim?
I wonder if there is any way of "scientifically" testing this claim?
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Where it's claimed, is any rationale given?
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You appear to have missed the 39 wildcards.Chris Rice wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:36 pmFrom the entry list looks like we've got around 119 players playing in this section. Interesting the way they have the rating qualifier numbers next to the names.
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There is. If Baadur Jobava is seeded #111, it's the SOATMatt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:55 pmI wonder if there is any way of "scientifically" testing this claim?
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I guess the 1990 interzonal is the main historical rival. It was also a candidates qualifier, but for 11 places rather than just one. It had great strength in depth, and didn't have the long wildcard tail which will be present in Douglas. Of course rating numbers were much lower then, but in terms of world top participation Manila 19900 stands comparison with Douglas 2019.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:55 pmClaimed to be the "strongest Swiss ever" even after the withdrawal of Giri and Lenier D-P.
I wonder if there is any way of "scientifically" testing this claim?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Che ... nship_1993
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Delighted to see also that the much underrated player "AN Other" is playing in the Minor.
Top section is rather good...
Top section is rather good...
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It has been a while since 225178E has been seen in public.Kevin Thurlow wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:33 pmDelighted to see also that the much underrated player "AN Other" is playing in the Minor.
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That's interesting; I was briefly at the Biel Interzonal in 1993, which was very strong and had 10 qualifying placesLeonard Barden wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:32 pmI guess the 1990 interzonal is the main historical rival. It was also a candidates qualifier, but for 11 places rather than just one. It had great strength in depth, and didn't have the long wildcard tail which will be present in Douglas. Of course rating numbers were much lower then, but in terms of world top participation Manila 19900 stands comparison with Douglas 2019.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:55 pmClaimed to be the "strongest Swiss ever" even after the withdrawal of Giri and Lenier D-P.
I wonder if there is any way of "scientifically" testing this claim?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Che ... nship_1993
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Indeed! Mick is quite right. I had forgotten Biel 1993, and being in Western Europe it was even stronger than Manila 1990, with Topalov an eye-catching 62nd in a field of 74. There is no way to definitively compare the three events, but in terms of world top participation Biel and Manila were not inferior to Douglas.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:51 amThat's interesting; I was briefly at the Biel Interzonal in 1993, which was very strong and had 10 qualifying placesLeonard Barden wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:32 pmI guess the 1990 interzonal is the main historical rival. It was also a candidates qualifier, but for 11 places rather than just one. It had great strength in depth, and didn't have the long wildcard tail which will be present in Douglas. Of course rating numbers were much lower then, but in terms of world top participation Manila 19900 stands comparison with Douglas 2019.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:55 pmClaimed to be the "strongest Swiss ever" even after the withdrawal of Giri and Lenier D-P.
I wonder if there is any way of "scientifically" testing this claim?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Che ... nship_1993
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There was also the parallel PCA "interzonal" in Groningen.Leonard Barden wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:14 amI had forgotten Biel 1993, and being in Western Europe it was even stronger than Manila 1990, with Topalov an eye-catching 62nd in a field of 74. There is no way to definitively compare the three events, but in terms of world top participation Biel and Manila were not inferior to Douglas.
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Susan Polgar was last out of 58. Winners were Adams and Anand with seven to qualify for the knock out stage.
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That's what good about the Forum, always a chance to learn; I couldn't remember anything about ManilaLeonard Barden wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:14 amIndeed! Mick is quite right. I had forgotten Biel 1993, and being in Western Europe it was even stronger than Manila 1990, with Topalov an eye-catching 62nd in a field of 74. There is no way to definitively compare the three events, but in terms of world top participation Biel and Manila were not inferior to Douglas.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:51 amThat's interesting; I was briefly at the Biel Interzonal in 1993, which was very strong and had 10 qualifying placesLeonard Barden wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:32 pm
I guess the 1990 interzonal is the main historical rival. It was also a candidates qualifier, but for 11 places rather than just one. It had great strength in depth, and didn't have the long wildcard tail which will be present in Douglas. Of course rating numbers were much lower then, but in terms of world top participation Manila 19900 stands comparison with Douglas 2019.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Che ... nship_1993
Gelfand was good at Interzonals back then
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Manila is Gurevich-Short. (Also, Adams needing to win in the last round to qualify, and losing.)
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Sutovsky's just claimed it on FB but no rationale given. "A handful of top players skipped - that does not change much. It is still by far the strongest Swiss ever."
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The FIDE Grand Prix events in 2016-17 which were eighteen players swisses may have had a higher rating average but clearly they had a lot less players.Chris Rice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:57 pmSutovsky's just claimed it on FB but no rationale given. "A handful of top players skipped - that does not change much. It is still by far the strongest Swiss ever."