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Board Minutes

Post by Paul Cooksey » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:12 am

Does anyone know when we would expect to see the December ECF Board minutes published based on past experience?

I am expecting them to be at least partially redacted again. But still, I am interested in whatever will be published.

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Re: Board Minutes

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:39 am

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:12 am
Does anyone know when we would expect to see the December ECF Board minutes published based on past experience?
I believe they try to follow a rule which agrees the redacted minutes of the previous Board meeting at the current meeting and then publishes them. That can lead to a delay of months in publication as they don't hold Board meetings every month. Particularly for meetings around the time of Council meetings, this gives an opportunity for decisions to be taken which will escape scrutiny by Council.

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Re: Board Minutes

Post by Joey Stewart » Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:17 am

Redacted minutes of a chess meeting?! Who do they think they are,the KGB?
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Re: Board Minutes

Post by Nick Grey » Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:42 am

… the Spanish Inquisition :lol:

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Re: Board Minutes

Post by Roger Lancaster » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:04 am

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:12 am
Does anyone know when we would expect to see the December ECF Board minutes published based on past experience?

I am expecting them to be at least partially redacted again. But still, I am interested in whatever will be published.
It's not unusual for the minutes of meetings, of whatever type, to be edited before wider publication. That will no doubt disappoint the conspiracy theorists - not, of course, that I would for one moment suggest that there are any such in our midst - but it means that confidential matters can freely be discussed. If, and this is just a random example, a committee had frankly discussed an offer of funding from a particular source which some members considered dubious, that's probably not a discussion it would want in the public domain. Thoughts on cheating might also be better kept off the record - one need only look at this forum to see names being bandied around without obvious regard to whether they are guilty or not.

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Re: Board Minutes

Post by Paul Cooksey » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:20 am

Actually, I have no issue at all with redacting, particularly if it is temporary.

I mentioned it because I think the big thing going on at the moment relates to the Development Officer appointment/ resignation, which I expect probably will be redacted. But I'm interested in the less controversial stuff too, which is why I asked.

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Re: Board Minutes

Post by Paul Cooksey » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:42 pm

I see these were published. Some interesting content.

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Re: Board Minutes

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:12 am

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:42 pm
Some interesting content.
The ECF appears to be running out of money again
The British Championship had made a higher than expected loss of £9.5k. Overall the ECF had made a loss of £67k compared with a forecast loss of £50k.

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Re: Board Minutes

Post by Adam Raoof » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:24 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:12 am
Paul Cooksey wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:42 pm
Some interesting content.
The ECF appears to be running out of money again
The British Championship had made a higher than expected loss of £9.5k. Overall the ECF had made a loss of £67k compared with a forecast loss of £50k.
Where is this money being spent?
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Re: Board Minutes

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:02 am

Adam Raoof wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:24 am
Where is this money being spent?
I suppose it's the usual places.

The costs of the Battle office
International teams
British Championships

Adding to the expenditure would be Women's chess and the costs of rebuilding grading for monthly updates.

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Re: Board Minutes

Post by Nick Burrows » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:13 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:12 am
The British Championship had made a higher than expected loss of £9.5k. Overall the ECF had made a loss of £67k compared with a forecast loss of £50k.
One idea would be to relax the strict qualifying conditions to allow weaker players to subsidise the stronger players.

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