Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by John McKenna » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:31 pm

Out of the 30 games between Fischer and Spassky, in 1992, 6 were Closed Sicilians (out of a total of 10 Sicilians, in all, making the Sicilian the most-played opening in the match with a score of +5,=5).

In those 6 Closed Sicilians playing white Fischer scored +1,=2 and Spassky did the same score when white. An even and symmetrical set of results.

Not played through any games, yet, apart from the first. And we now know something of what Kasparov had to say about that (see above for Leonard Barden's post re: OMGP IV p. 488).

There (on p. 489) Kasparov also says, "Against any young player with a rating of over 2600 (in 1992!) he would have found things tough." Which confirms that Fischer himself was playing (as stipulated above) at around 2620 on his return in 1992.

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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:06 pm

Not long after this contest, Spassky played Judit Polgar in a match and lost by 3 games to 2 with 5 draws.Though that was slightly misleading in a way, in the final "dead rubber" encounter he made a basic and well known blunder in the opening - but his opponent didn't spot it (or at least, she pretended not to?) and Boris went on to win an - after that mishap - well played game.
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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by John McKenna » Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:39 pm

Ah, the lady v. the gent, thanks.

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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by Nick Ivell » Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:55 pm

I don't think Bobby was as good as 2600 in 1992. Look at game 5. He was about Spassky's strength, with Boris in it for the money and throwing a bone or two.

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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by Simon Rogers » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:03 pm

I'm enjoying reading the posts about Bobby Fischer on the forum and learning new things about his games.

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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by Simon Rogers » Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:21 pm

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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by John McKenna » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:08 pm

Fischer quit while at his peak, which helps explain, to some degree, why it has been claimed that he only lost once to a player younger than himself in all serious competitions. Who, when and where?

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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by Nick Ivell » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:43 pm

Florin Gheorghiu? I seem to recall he beat Fischer, although characteristically Bobby turned a draw down.

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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by John McKenna » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:15 pm

Correct, Nick.

That was in the 1966 Havana Olympiad, I believe.

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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by Simon Rogers » Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:04 pm

Thanks John and Nick. I'm learning more and more about Bobby Fischer.

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Re: Rough estimates over Fischer's re-entry into chess.

Post by John Moore » Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:11 pm

Vlatko Kovacevic who beat Fischer at Rovinj-Zagreb in 1970 (interesting game by the way)? Ah, I see that he was born in 1942.

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