'We have a season...burn burn burn' as the byrds said in their song

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'We have a season...burn burn burn' as the byrds said in their song

Post by AlanLlewellyn » Mon Aug 29, 2022 11:55 am

Another year another season in chess, another decline in ratings, another series of loses to people playing like computers.

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Re: 'We have a season...burn burn burn' as the byrds said in their song

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Aug 29, 2022 12:28 pm

Turn

Also, it's not "we have a season"
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Post by AlanLlewellyn » Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:30 pm

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Re: 'We have a season...burn burn burn' as the byrds said in their song

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:38 pm

Is this thread adding anything to the total store of human knowledge
"Do you play chess?"
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Re: 'We have a season...burn burn burn' as the byrds said in their song

Post by AlanLlewellyn » Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:34 pm

the point of my initial thread was that i have had 30 seasons of static or declining ratings and yet i still look ever hopefull they will double overnight.

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Post by AlanLlewellyn » Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:36 pm

it must be nice to look t youre rating in the 2000+ region and think i could get this higher with good play, i am incredibly envious of such people

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Post by John Upham » Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:38 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:38 pm
Is this thread adding anything to the total store of human knowledge
I suspect we can deduce that it isn't without taking the trouble of attempting to translate it.

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Post by NickFaulks » Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:41 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 12:28 pm
Turn

Also, it's not "we have a season"
Apart from those quibbles it's not far off.
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Re: 'We have a season...burn burn burn' as the byrds said in their song

Post by AlanLlewellyn » Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:57 pm

The point i make about a chess failure like myself who gets excited if his non-entity rating goes up from 1578 to 1582, i am just writing an ode to such a person as i am he.

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Post by AlanLlewellyn » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:00 pm

my rating isnt reaching the dizzy heights of 1582 its on the way down.

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Post by Nick Ivell » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:06 pm

We are all failures in chess. Even Magnus will probably feel such, if he doesn't reach 2900, and I don't think he will.

It's just a question of scale.

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Post by Stephen Westmoreland » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:16 pm

AlanLlewellyn wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:00 pm
my rating isnt reaching the dizzy heights of 1582 its on the way down.
It is all about enjoying the game and not the rating (speaking as someone who would be mortified when he goes under 1800 but will keep on playing).
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Post by AlanLlewellyn » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:31 pm

somebody certainly hit the 'difficult' button when they decided on my life choices.

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Post by Chris Goodall » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:37 pm

AlanLlewellyn wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:36 pm
it must be nice to look t youre rating in the 2000+ region and think i could get this higher with good play, i am incredibly envious of such people
You needn't be; we spend most of the time being envious of titled players. (Not of the fact FIDE sold them a single square on a chessboard in Scotland with the title "Master" attached, but of the fact they can move the pieces better than us :wink: )
Nick Ivell wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:06 pm
Even Magnus will probably feel such, if he doesn't reach 2900, and I don't think he will.
The relationship between log(rank) and rating is perfectly linear until you get to the world top 20. The top 20 are underrated. Magnus is overrated for the world top 20, but underrated by log(rank). So it's likely that if you allowed computers to compete against humans, Magnus would break 2900 without getting any better at chess.
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Post by Stephen Westmoreland » Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:16 pm

We need an oldie to swing in at the top and make us all feel better basically.
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