4ncl 2022-23

Venues, fixtures, teams and related matters.
LawrenceCooper
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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:13 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:45 pm
I see there's a suggestion the 1 May bank holiday might get put back because of the Coronation
It would be a shame if that happened and the Milton Keynes venue wasn't available on the revised dates :roll:

Graham Borrowdale
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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by Graham Borrowdale » Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:20 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:13 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:45 pm
I see there's a suggestion the 1 May bank holiday might get put back because of the Coronation
It would be a shame if that happened and the Milton Keynes venue wasn't available on the revised dates :roll:
You might have thought the Palace would have checked first :?

Roger de Coverly
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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:01 am

There seem to be teams withdrawing from the first weekends becuase of a lack of hotel accommodation. Whilst this allows players who would otherwise play in the 4NCL to take part in Congresses sheduled for the same weekends, this is hardly good for the health of the league.

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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:40 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:01 am
There seem to be teams withdrawing from the first weekends becuase of a lack of hotel accommodation. Whilst this allows players who would otherwise play in the 4NCL to take part in Congresses sheduled for the same weekends, this is hardly good for the health of the league.
Is this Division Three/Four or just generally?

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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:29 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:40 pm
Is this Division Three/Four or just generally?
Lack of hotel accommodation will affect all teams. I only know about Division 3/4 withdrawals.

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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:16 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:29 pm
LawrenceCooper wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:40 pm
Is this Division Three/Four or just generally?
Lack of hotel accommodation will affect all teams. I only know about Division 3/4 withdrawals.
Thanks. It's clearly more problematic if teams start withdrawing from the all-play-alls.

Alex McFarlane
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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by Alex McFarlane » Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:19 pm

As I do the initial pairings for this division I would be interested to know which teams are dropping out. I know that one person has indicated that both their teams are likely to withdraw but that is not unusual in any weekend. Roger's post seems to indicate he has more knowledge than the officials

Neil Graham
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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by Neil Graham » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:14 pm

Unfortunately one of my players has had to withdraw for the 1st weekend at Daventry. He has a booking for a hotel room at the venue. If any captain wishes to get in touch with me I will advise on the player's phone number so they can arrange for another player to take the vacancy. Please do this via my e-mail address which is on the 4NCL website under "Ashfield".

Roger de Coverly
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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:52 pm

Alex McFarlane wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:19 pm
Roger's post seems to indicate he has more knowledge than the officials
I only know about division 3 teams.

Neil Graham
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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by Neil Graham » Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:35 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:52 pm
Alex McFarlane wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:19 pm
Roger's post seems to indicate he has more knowledge than the officials
I only know about division 3 teams.
Well if this is in Division Three which is an all-play-all Division it will cause havoc. Perhaps we can be advised on which team this is and how this will affect pairings? Teams that default Division Three matches should be immediately relegated to Division Four for the remainder of the season and replaced by a team from that Division who can give some assurance they will actually play.

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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:53 pm

I expect that a number of teams are reviewing their plans following the shocking development that the convenient accommodation which has always been synonymous with 4NCL weekends has been removed without warning.
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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:57 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:53 pm
I expect that a number of teams are reviewing their plans following the shocking development that the convenient accommodation which has always been synonymous with 4NCL weekends has been removed without warning.
That was the story I heard.

I did however spot that the Staverton hotel near Daventry as used in past 4NCL weekend was still available at a higher price on booking.com, for November 5th anyway.

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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by Neil Graham » Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:46 pm

If that is the case perhaps 4NCL or Guaranteed Events might issue something. This is the first I've heard about this.

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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:29 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:53 pm
I expect that a number of teams are reviewing their plans following the shocking development that the convenient accommodation which has always been synonymous with 4NCL weekends has been removed without warning.
What is the shocking development that you are referring to? I'm aware from previous seasons that the hotels do tend to be fully booked and group bookings do need to be made months before but I wasn't aware of anything different this season. If there were lots of rooms still available heading into the final week then that would presumably put the 4NCL/Guaranteed Events model at risk of big financial losses.

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Re: 4ncl 2022-23

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:52 am

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:40 pm
Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:01 am
There seem to be teams withdrawing from the first weekends becuase of a lack of hotel accommodation. Whilst this allows players who would otherwise play in the 4NCL to take part in Congresses sheduled for the same weekends, this is hardly good for the health of the league.
Is this Division Three/Four or just generally?
I understand for Div 3W that the hotel is fully booked for the whole season and there's no overspill nearby; this is going to be an issue if teams then book nearby hotels and their opponents withdraw, let alone what that does to the APA format
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