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Mark Howitt
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by Mark Howitt » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:09 pm
He did write a lot back in the day

I guess my chances of a refund are v slim yet... just as a quick perspective...
Richard Palliser reviewed like EVERY book back in the day. I finished my novel in 2005. I was sure a fellow Yorkshire chessplayer about my age would give me a quick review... after all in effect I had been buying his writing (via my parents) for years...
Nope.
Kinda hits home to you reality of the world.
Cancelled Chess and haven't even bought a chess book for about 20 years. Don't need to.
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by Matt Bridgeman » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:14 pm
Mark Howitt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:09 pm
He did write a lot back in the day

I guess my chances of a refund are v slim yet... just as a quick perspective...
Richard Palliser reviewed like EVERY book back in the day. I finished my novel in 2005. I was sure a fellow Yorkshire chessplayer about my age would give me a quick review... after all in effect I had been buying his writing (via my parents) for years...
Nope.
Kinda hits home to you reality of the world.
Cancelled Chess and haven't even bought a chess book for about 20 years. Don't need to.
Save the moderators a little work and cut and paste all your book comments into a book section. A word to the wise, the last person who kept talking a lot of nonsense everywhere did eventually just get banned off the Forum. Alan Llewellyn - you should probably seek him out at a chess congress. You’d probably get on like a house on fire!
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jholyhead
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by jholyhead » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:48 pm
Matt Bridgeman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:05 pm
Story 4 is probably the worst yet
No probably about it. Speechless.
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Ian Thompson
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by Ian Thompson » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:52 pm
Matt Bridgeman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:05 pm
Other than Story One, is Story Two the same offender or perhaps an overseas GM this time?
Sabina said somewhere on Twitter that the 7 stories will relate to 7 different people.
Before she said that I'd already assumed that the "world-renowned GM" was a non-English GM.
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by Matt Bridgeman » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:18 pm
jholyhead wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:48 pm
Matt Bridgeman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:05 pm
Story 4 is probably the worst yet
No probably about it. Speechless.
It is a horrific read. Who is ‘His mate. One of the most active junior coaches in the country’? Some of us do have children who are female chess players. It would be good to know who in this English chess community we should be looking out for.
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by Ian Thompson » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:36 pm
Matt Bridgeman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:18 pm
Who is ‘His mate. One of the most active junior coaches in the country’?
It's not clear from the statement whether that means at the time the incident happened, now, or both.
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by John Upham » Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:29 pm
Clearly (so far) #4 is the most ghastly of them all and appears to involve an incident during the 4NCL team competition presumably during the 0506 season.
I'm not sure what each of the venues were for each weekend but I guess the first weekend was at Birmingham as that is how Megabase has labelled the complete season.
Megabase knows the 4NCL tournament for 0506 as "BCF-chT2 0506"
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by jholyhead » Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:46 pm
Don't do it John. Nowhere in that thread did Sabrina say it was a team mate who assaulted her. And nowhere has Sabrina asked for people to try to figure out the details she has chosen to leave out.
Sabrina's keyboard has 26 letter keys, she can type out all the names she wants to, when she wants to.
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by John Upham » Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:50 pm
jholyhead wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:46 pm
Don't do it John. Nowhere in that thread did Sabrina say it was a team mate who assaulted her. And nowhere has Sabrina asked for people to try to figure out the details she has chosen to leave out.
Sabrina's keyboard has 26 letter keys, she can type out all the names she wants to, when she wants to.
Indeed. All of the above is factually correct and is in the public domain if you consider chess games databases to be in the public domain.
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by Roger Lancaster » Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:59 pm
John Upham wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:50 pm
jholyhead wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:46 pm
Don't do it John. Nowhere in that thread did Sabrina say it was a team mate who assaulted her. And nowhere has Sabrina asked for people to try to figure out the details she has chosen to leave out.
Sabrina's keyboard has 26 letter keys, she can type out all the names she wants to, when she wants to.
Indeed. All of the above is factually correct and is in the public domain if you consider chess games databases to be in the public domain.
Even without the link to this story I think I get the general drift. Sounds terrible and Sabrina is absolutely entitled to withhold names but, without names, it doesn't move us much further forward.
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by Paul McKeown » Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:09 pm
Where are these allegations published?
Okay - it is Twitter.
Story 4 is a direct allegation of rape, with plenty of bullying from the rapists' team mates on the side.
One of Sabrina's friends really should help her bring her story to the nearest police station. It concerns an extremely serious crime, which might be repeated by the same offenders. I can understand a degree of reticence, of course.
If the 4NCL and/or the ECF know of the allegations, they really should suspend the players concerned until this is cleared.
Story 3 is just an all too credible story of racism in English team selection and support. I suspect (or perhaps foolishly hope) that attitudes are different today.
Edited: answered my own question.
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by Matt Bridgeman » Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:34 pm
Paul McKeown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:09 pm
Where are these allegations published?
You’d have to look at her Sabrina’s Twitter or X account as it’s called now.
It sounds very positive that Sabrina says she is now thinking seriously about reporting these sexual assaults to the police. I was a police officer for 11 years, and that really is the best idea. As was said on X, take a friend and expect a positive outcome. I’m sure they’ll give you plenty of victim of crime support, and ultimately some justice can hopefully be served on these predators hiding in our chess community.
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by Paul McKeown » Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:39 pm
Matt Bridgeman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:34 pm
Paul McKeown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:09 pm
Where are these allegations published?
You’d have to look at her Sabrina’s Twitter or X account as it’s called now.
It sounds very positive that Sabrina says she is now thinking seriously about reporting these sexual assaults to the police. I was a police officer for 11 years, and that really is the best idea. As was said on X, take a friend and expect a positive outcome. I’m sure they’ll give you plenty of victim of crime support, and ultimately some justice can hopefully be served on these predators hiding in our chess community.
Thanks, Matt.
I agree, reporting the rape to the police is the most sensible course of action, which although requiring courage, should help make the chess community a safer one in the long term.
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by Matt Bridgeman » Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:45 pm
Paul McKeown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:39 pm
Matt Bridgeman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:34 pm
Paul McKeown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:09 pm
Where are these allegations published?
You’d have to look at her Sabrina’s Twitter or X account as it’s called now.
It sounds very positive that Sabrina says she is now thinking seriously about reporting these sexual assaults to the police. I was a police officer for 11 years, and that really is the best idea. As was said on X, take a friend and expect a positive outcome. I’m sure they’ll give you plenty of victim of crime support, and ultimately some justice can hopefully be served on these predators hiding in our chess community.
Thanks, Matt.
I agree, reporting the rape to the police is the most sensible course of action, which although requiring courage, should help make the chess community a safer one in the long term.
Stories one, two and four are all sexual assaults, and statements can be written for all 3, and 3 crimes recorded. I’m sure her local police station will liaise with whoever they need to make sure the crimes are investigated by the correct police forces.