Chess history trivia

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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue May 28, 2024 8:22 am

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Sun May 26, 2024 12:40 pm
Will have a think about that one!

Here is one from me.

Which father-son pairing served at the same time on a Cambridge college chess club? The father (one of the most famous scientists of the 20th century) was President of the chess club and his step-son was Honorary Treasurer.
A follow-up question which may help. Not the same people, but they were all part of the same general area of science.

Which two famous physicists shared a love of chess and table tennis?

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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by John Townsend » Tue May 28, 2024 10:23 am

Regarding the original question (still not answered) Max Newman had, I think, three Penrose stepsons. I tried Jonathan. Of the other two, I would prefer Oliver, because he is known as a good chessplayer, but it's still a guess.

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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue May 28, 2024 12:41 pm

John Townsend wrote:
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Regarding the original question (still not answered) Max Newman had, I think, three Penrose stepsons. I tried Jonathan. Of the other two, I would prefer Oliver, because he is known as a good chessplayer, but it's still a guess.
It is not any of the Penroses.

It may give it away, but the father ("one of the most famous scientists of the 20th century") has a marker stone in Westminster Abbey. This does not narrow it down much, as so many were from Cambridge...

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Minor Pieces 74: Charles Dealtry Locock (1)

Post by John Upham » Tue May 28, 2024 1:34 pm

Richard James has written

Minor Pieces 74: Charles Dealtry Locock (1)

which may be found at

https://britishchessnews.com/2024/05/28 ... -locock-1/

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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Tue May 28, 2024 9:00 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Sun May 26, 2024 12:40 pm
Which father-son pairing served at the same time on a Cambridge college chess club? The father (one of the most famous scientists of the 20th century) was President of the chess club and his step-son was Honorary Treasurer.
Perhaps Paul Dirac and his stepson, Gabriel Dirac?

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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue May 28, 2024 9:56 pm

That's correct, Jon. Well done.

I know P. A. M. Dirac played chess, but am less certain about Gabriel. I had not known they were both at St. John's College at the same time. It is quite something to see the one give a lecture on "the nature of the electron" and the other give a talk on relativity (Gabriel was an undergraduate during WW2). I will dig out the reference if anyone wants it.

The other question (with a table tennis photo) is answered here:

https://www.wondersofphysics.com/2021/1 ... chess.html

It is funny that "Heisenberg's doctoral advisor, forbade him to play chess"!

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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by John Clarke » Wed May 29, 2024 8:02 am

MJMcCready wrote:
Sun May 26, 2024 12:19 pm
No, okay clues:

Think decade
Think address
Think occupation

It's difficult to know what else to say without making the answer obvious, let's just say he's a well known character/englishman and leave it at that but if you were aware of his movements, certainly the clue regarding occupation probably gives it away.
Still no "takers" here, I see.

* "Decade" suggests to me the 1930s, when the great depression had its worst effects (although it began late in 1929).
* The black horse of The Revelation carried the rider Famine; it's also the logo of Lloyds Bank; plus there's a whole Dan Brown novel's worth of interpretations with mystic/occult significance.
* The name Conway appears to have the meaning "holy river and hound of the plain" (which is a lot to pack into just six letters).
* And the list of chess historians put up by Wikipedia is a pretty small one; however, nothing obvious jumps out from it which relates clearly to any of the above.

Anyone got any further? If not, then time to cough up, Mac.
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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by MJMcCready » Wed May 29, 2024 1:19 pm

John Clarke wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 8:02 am
MJMcCready wrote:
Sun May 26, 2024 12:19 pm
No, okay clues:

Think decade
Think address
Think occupation

It's difficult to know what else to say without making the answer obvious, let's just say he's a well known character/englishman and leave it at that but if you were aware of his movements, certainly the clue regarding occupation probably gives it away.
Still no "takers" here, I see.

* "Decade" suggests to me the 1930s, when the great depression had its worst effects (although it began late in 1929).
* The black horse of The Revelation carried the rider Famine; it's also the logo of Lloyds Bank; plus there's a whole Dan Brown novel's worth of interpretations with mystic/occult significance.
* The name Conway appears to have the meaning "holy river and hound of the plain" (which is a lot to pack into just six letters).
* And the list of chess historians put up by Wikipedia is a pretty small one; however, nothing obvious jumps out from it which relates clearly to any of the above.

Anyone got any further? If not, then time to cough up, Mac.
You are correct across the board there. It's G.H.Diggle. in the late 30s he was the manager of Lloyd's Bank in Luton and lived on Conway Road. Sainsbury was the first supermarket chain to open in the town and the store was about 50 meters from his workplace

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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by Gerard Killoran » Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:27 pm

Who was Peter and where did he play such innovative chess?

I'll certainly try out his stratagem next time I play - and see if it sends my opponent into a frenzy. In fact I'm sure it will.

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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by John Upham » Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:06 pm

Gerard Killoran wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:27 pm
Who was Peter and where did he play such innovative chess?

I'll certainly try out his stratagem next time I play - and see if it sends my opponent into a frenzy. In fact I'm sure it will.


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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:28 pm

Gerard Killoran wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:27 pm
Who was Peter and where did he play such innovative chess?
Lieutenant Peter Allan and Colditz. A picture of him can be seen on this page:
https://theescapeline.blogspot.com/2015 ... scape.html

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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by Gerard Killoran » Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:50 pm

Well done, the kilt was a give-away!
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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:18 pm

Rupert is presumably Rupert Barry (later Sir Rupert Barry). But who wrote that piece?

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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by Gerard Killoran » Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:29 pm

It's from Escape from Colditz : the two classic escape stories, The Colditz story and Man of Colditz, in one volume by Reid, P. R. (Patrick Robert), 1910-1990 Publication date 1953

https://archive.org/details/escapefromc ... up?q=chess
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Re: Chess history trivia

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:33 pm

Thanks. The other two search results for 'chess' are interesting. Pity there is not more.

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