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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:30 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:Looking at Gordon v Adams - 17. Bxd5 cxd5 18. Rxd5 wins a pawn. I'm assuming Adams realised this when he played 16...Qf6. If I were white, I'd be winning the pawn here and not worried about any potential black compensation. Obviously though, there is some. But I don't see it. So what is black's plan?
Maybe 18...Be6 and then Rac8, b5
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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:31 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
JustinHorton wrote:Is it Ynojosa-Aponte or Ynojosa Aponte?
He has entered under the name Ynojosa-Aponte.
How curious. Is that new?
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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by James Coleman » Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:32 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:Looking at Gordon v Adams - 17. Bxd5 cxd5 18. Rxd5 wins a pawn. I'm assuming Adams realised this when he played 16...Qf6. If I were white, I'd be winning the pawn here and not worried about any potential black compensation. Obviously though, there is some. But I don't see it. So what is black's plan?
Looks very risky indeed. White gives up his prime piece and after ...Be6 followed by ...Rfc8/Rac8 I would be surprised if he's not substantially worse

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:36 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Alex Holowczak wrote:
JustinHorton wrote:Is it Ynojosa-Aponte or Ynojosa Aponte?
He has entered under the name Ynojosa-Aponte.
How curious. Is that new?
It's the first time I've seen him enter a competition under this name, but then, I don't go around documenting his chess-tournament appearances. He is listed both on the FIDE website and ECF grading list as "Ynojosa".

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:46 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:It's the first time I've seen him enter a competition under this name, but then, I don't go around documenting his chess-tournament appearances. He is listed both on the FIDE website and ECF grading list as "Ynojosa".
OK. The reason for my query is because (for those who don't know) in much of the Hispanic world it's normal practice to have two surnames - apellidos - which are, in order, your father's surname and your mother's. (Or rather, their first surnames.) This isn't always understood elsewhere, which is why it sometimes confuses people that, for instance, Vallejo, the Spanish player, is sometimes referred to as Vallejo Pons. So I wondered whether it might be that, that Aponte was his second apellido. Apparently not.
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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:49 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Alex Holowczak wrote:It's the first time I've seen him enter a competition under this name, but then, I don't go around documenting his chess-tournament appearances. He is listed both on the FIDE website and ECF grading list as "Ynojosa".
OK. The reason for my query is because (for those who don't know) in much of the Hispanic world it's normal practice to have two surnames - apellidos - which are, in order, your father's surname and your mother's. (Or rather, their first surnames.) This isn't always understood elsewhere, which is why it sometimes confuses people that, for instance, Vallejo, the Spanish player, is sometimes referred to as Vallejo Pons. So I wondered whether it might be that, that Aponte was his second apellido. Apparently not.
His full name is Felix Jose Ynojosa as given on the ECF grading list and FIDE rating list. I don't know if this affects your analysis of this situation!

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Richard James » Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:49 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Alex Holowczak wrote:It's the first time I've seen him enter a competition under this name, but then, I don't go around documenting his chess-tournament appearances. He is listed both on the FIDE website and ECF grading list as "Ynojosa".
OK. The reason for my query is because (for those who don't know) in much of the Hispanic world it's normal practice to have two surnames - apellidos - which are, in order, your father's surname and your mother's. (Or rather, their first surnames.) This isn't always understood elsewhere, which is why it sometimes confuses people that, for instance, Vallejo, the Spanish player, is sometimes referred to as Vallejo Pons. So I wondered whether it might be that, that Aponte was his second apellido. Apparently not.
When he first came over here from Venezuela I think he entered as Ynojosa so I assumed that Aponte was his mother's surname, just as you did. I may well be wrong, though. It's good to get these things right.

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Post by David Sedgwick » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:43 pm

Richard James wrote:
JustinHorton wrote:
Alex Holowczak wrote:It's the first time I've seen him enter a competition under this name, but then, I don't go around documenting his chess-tournament appearances. He is listed both on the FIDE website and ECF grading list as "Ynojosa".
OK. The reason for my query is because (for those who don't know) in much of the Hispanic world it's normal practice to have two surnames - apellidos - which are, in order, your father's surname and your mother's. (Or rather, their first surnames.) This isn't always understood elsewhere, which is why it sometimes confuses people that, for instance, Vallejo, the Spanish player, is sometimes referred to as Vallejo Pons. So I wondered whether it might be that, that Aponte was his second apellido. Apparently not.
When he first came over here from Venezuela I think he entered as Ynojosa so I assumed that Aponte was his mother's surname, just as you did. I may well be wrong, though. It's good to get these things right.
I remember learning about Hispanic surnames the hard way at one of the early Gibraltar Congresses. Gonzales Amaya and Gonzales Nunez were paired. They were father and son, but this possibility hadn't occurred to the British arbiting team.

Reverting to Felix, I imagine that the exact facts need to be clarified with him or his parents. However, I would have thought it possible that Ynojosa Aponte is indeed his full Hispanic surname, but that he's decided to "anglicise" it to Ynojosa-Aponte. That would be consistent with his previously being known simply as Ynojosa.

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Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:48 pm

Adams' position is looking a bit ropey. Is it too late to change the Olympiad team back to how it originally was?

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Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:52 pm

Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:Adams' position is looking a bit ropey. Is it too late to change the Olympiad team back to how it originally was?
He did not look a happy bunny as he stormed into the toilet a few minutes ago...

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:54 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:Adams' position is looking a bit ropey. Is it too late to change the Olympiad team back to how it originally was?
He did not look a happy bunny as he stormed into the toilet a few minutes ago...
Computer's not fussed, though, reckons it's pretty equal.
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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:02 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:Adams' position is looking a bit ropey. Is it too late to change the Olympiad team back to how it originally was?
He did not look a happy bunny as he stormed into the toilet a few minutes ago...
So that's where you hang around is it? I guess you get to meet more of the players there than in the commentary room.

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:04 pm

Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:
Alex Holowczak wrote:
Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:Adams' position is looking a bit ropey. Is it too late to change the Olympiad team back to how it originally was?
He did not look a happy bunny as he stormed into the toilet a few minutes ago...
So that's where you hang around is it? I guess you get to meet more of the players there than in the commentary room.
No, we're up on the balcony to the little sports hall. I just popped down to buy a drink from the vending machine. Stewart Reuben stopped me in my tracks to talk to me. It was during this conversation that Adams rushed behind me into the bathroom, with a rather thoughtful expression on his face.

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:30 pm

His expression might change shortly. I think Gordon's just lobbed him a rook.
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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by E Michael White » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:30 pm

If the score is correct 29. ... Qc5 looks good for Adams

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