39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Michael Yeo » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:48 pm

John Saunders wrote:The rules seem clear but I think 7 games may have been the minimum for the lowest board in earlier years.

It is of course not unknown for FIDE's website to show outdated data.

Edit: Had a look at the 2008 results on chess-results.com and couldn't find any board prize winners with fewer than eight games played.

10.3 here also mentions the 8 board minimum for Dresden

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:34 am

Michael Jones wrote:Congratulations to Gawain, Q vs R is a difficult one to win and he made it look trivially easy.
I was very impressed with Gawain Jones's game today. Particularly the way he gave up that pawn for piece activity and picked off his opponent's weak pawns and that Nf2 move was excellent, and as Michael said above, he (Jones) made the Q vs R stage look easy and (the stage before that) it was instructive to see how to win with Q against R and two pawns. It was one of those games where I really felt I was learning something as I was watching it.

Howell's game was a bit less pleasant to watch. I wonder whether time trouble played a part, or whether the position was just suspect out of the opening? McShane's game looked like a solid draw. I'm still a bit puzzled about Adams' game though. Someone said earlier they were surprised he didn't manage to make more of the extra pawn, and that is what I was thinking as well. Did Adams miss something earlier, or was it more drawish than it looked?

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by LozCooper » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:42 am

Round 10 board pairings:

Bo. 12 England (ENG) Rtg - 13 Netherlands (NED) Rtg 0 : 0
12.1 GM Adams Michael 2728 - GM Van Wely Loek 2679
12.2 GM Short Nigel D 2690 - GM Smeets Jan 2669
12.3 GM McShane Luke J 2657 - GM Giri Anish 2677
12.4 GM Jones Gawain C B 2576 - GM Stellwagen Daniel 2635

Bo. 39 England (ENG) Rtg - 58 Canada (CAN) Rtg 0 : 0
23.1 IM Houska Jovanka 2426 - WIM Yuan Yuanling 2189
23.2 WFM Grigoryan Meri 2099 - Lacau-Rodean Iulia 2024
23.3 Bhatia Kanwal K 2072 - Orlova Yelizaveta 1917
23.4 WFM Hegarty Sarah N 2084 - Kagramanov Dalia 1866

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:28 am

"... but if Short had been playing today we'd have had more chance of winning."

I claim a draw by repetition of comment.
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Alex Holowczak » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:33 am

Kevin Thurlow wrote:"... but if Short had been playing today we'd have had more chance of winning."

I claim a draw by repetition of comment.
I'm going to decline your claim; your scoresheet (well, quotation) doesn't show the same comment being made three times. I'll also have to add three minutes to your opponent's clock I'm afraid. :wink:

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Keith Arkell » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:51 am

LozCooper wrote:Round 10 board pairings:

Bo. 12 England (ENG) Rtg - 13 Netherlands (NED) Rtg 0 : 0
12.1 GM Adams Michael 2728 - GM Van Wely Loek 2679
12.2 GM Short Nigel D 2690 - GM Smeets Jan 2669
12.3 GM McShane Luke J 2657 - GM Giri Anish 2677
12.4 GM Jones Gawain C B 2576 - GM Stellwagen Daniel 2635

Bo. 39 England (ENG) Rtg - 58 Canada (CAN) Rtg 0 : 0
23.1 IM Houska Jovanka 2426 - WIM Yuan Yuanling 2189
23.2 WFM Grigoryan Meri 2099 - Lacau-Rodean Iulia 2024
23.3 Bhatia Kanwal K 2072 - Orlova Yelizaveta 1917
23.4 WFM Hegarty Sarah N 2084 - Kagramanov Dalia 1866
This should be a great match to watch.Makes up for not having SKY and so not being able to watch the Ryder Cup!

At the risk of sounding like a broken record,in the 'old days' the only tougher match would have been against the USSR.

C'mon the lads,and particularly all the best Ga with the board prize,and Saz looking for one of Eng's best ever bottom board female scores.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Alex Holowczak » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:05 am

Keith Arkell wrote:This should be a great match to watch.Makes up for not having SKY and so not being able to watch the Ryder Cup!
Play has been suspended due to a waterlogged course, so you're not missing much.

Try this though! I'm watching it on stream 2...

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by David Brock » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:08 am

[quote="Keith Arkell"][quote="LozCooper"]Round 10 board pairings:

This should be a great match to watch.Makes up for not having SKY and so not being able to watch the Ryder Cup!

Sorry Keith best choice is to watch the chess as the Ryder cub has stopped play due to the rain so don't worry about Sky you don't need it. Saying that though if and when it starts again if you have an internet connection go to this link at you can watch it ( even the sky coverage )

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?match ... art=sports

Good luck today guys and especially Gawain
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Nick Thomas » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:13 am

After the first 10 mins or so I would guess that the match will hinge on boards 2 and 4 with the other 2 being probable draws (just a guess)...

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Simon Williams » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:27 am

It would be great to see Gawain get a board price, when was the last time that happened for an English player?

Going to be tough though. I guess the opening (mainline Dragon...) will soon lead to a load of chaos! Good luck Gawain and everyone else!

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by David Brock » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:45 am

Simon Williams wrote:It would be great to see Gawain get a board price, when was the last time that happened for an English player?

Going to be tough though. I guess the opening (mainline Dragon...) will soon lead to a load of chaos! Good luck Gawain and everyone else!
Maybe he should have played your Dragadorf

I prefer it to the main line Dragon
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Simon Williams » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:52 am

The Dragadorf still has some surprise value, so it could have been worth a punt.

I am bit worried that Gawain has spent so long on the opening. That is just the type of position that you need to know well in advance otherwise you could end up on the wrong side of a raging attack...

On board 1, I remember looking at that line for Black after I lost horribly to Mickey (at the British) and it just looked equal to me. Black plays ...Rfd8 and ...d5, so it will be interesting to see what Mickey is planning.

Lukes game looks dead equal.

Not sure about Short's game. Still theory I guess.
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Justin Hadi » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:53 am

So, does anyone have a clue what's going on in Gawain's dragon or it is just chaotic? Also looks like Smeets is playing the Short system against Short.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:54 am

Smeets using the De Loughry system against Nigel. http://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php ... &start=468

Stellwagen using the "why doesn't g4 and h5 work?" variation against Gawain's Dragon.

(edit) The main line in 1986 at move 18 in the Dragon game was the exchange sac 18 Rxh5 as first seen in Karpov-Sznapik from the Dubai Olympiad, Short-Mandl from the German League and Chandler-Mestel from the British playoff. At move 20 they are still following the Short and Chandler games.

(edit - later) now down to following just the one game (on my research) Vouldis-Tiviakov from the Euro team in 1993.
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Justin Hadi » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:58 am

I see, thanks, not up to date with Caro theory!

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