November 2010 FIDE Rating List

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November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by LozCooper » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:48 pm

England players born in 1991 or later rated 2000+ (U20 for the year 2011)

IDcode Name T WT Oth. T. Fed Rtg Exp B-Year S F
468584 Zhou, Yang-Fan f ENG 2326 0 1994 M (Under 18)
414425 Kilpatrick, Callum ENG 2247 0 1992 M
3900258 Ynojosa, Felix Jose ENG 2229 0 1996 M (Under 16)
406252 Adair, James ENG 2212 0 1992 M
413470 Khandelwal, Ankush ENG 2211 0 1991 M i
468576 Franklin, Samuel G A ENG 2185 0 1994 M (Under 18)
2275740 Williams, Peter A ENG 2179 0 1996 M (Under 16)
404080 Salimbeni, George P W ENG 2159 0 1992 M
412732 O`Toole, George E ENG 2152 0 1993 M (under 18)
414433 Sen, Subin ENG 2150 0 1993 M (Under 18)
401480 Brown, Martin ENG 2130 0 1993 M (Under 18)
416860 Jackson, James P ENG 2146 0 1991 M
412694 Hawrami, Dana ENG 2124 0 1991 M i
470546 Jones, Victor G L ENG 2119 0 1994 M (Under 18)
470554 Jones, William E G ENG 2115 0 1993 M (Under 18)
419532 Fielding, Thomas ENG 2113 0 1991 M i
400319 Clarke, Brandon G I ENG 2110 0 1995 M (Under 16)
403695 Galliano, Alexander ENG 2102 0 1993 M (Under 18)
468550 Jain, Akash ENG 2097 0 1993 M i (Under 18)
403717 Grant, David J ENG 2095 0 1993 M (Under 18)
416835 Holland, James P ENG 2079 0 1995 M (Under 16)
415391 Foord, Dominic ENG 2071 0 1992 M
417440 Cotterill, Daniel ENG 2037 0 1992 M
468568 Hunt, Daniel ENG 2035 0 1995 M (Under 16)
470902 Rabbitte, Liam F ENG 2034 0 1991 M
401161 Weaving, Richard ENG 2027 0 1994 M (Under 18)
419559 Scott, Gordon W ENG 2026 0 1995 M (Under 16)
470929 Sathyanandha, Saravanan ENG 2020 0 1994 M (Under 18)
415138 Foster, James C ENG 2013 0 1991 M
468525 Rabbitte, Michael J ENG 2010 0 1992 M
418471 Bellin, Christopher J ENG 2045 0 1991 M
470163 Cumming, Rhys ENG 2008 0 1994 M (Under 18)
470678 Lenier, Jude ENG 2006 0 1995 M (Under 16)

Under 14 (for the year 2011):

417661 Sanders, Isaac B ENG 1978 0 1998 M
420379 Green, Conrad Eliot ENG 1942 0 1997 M
5020549 Malhotra, Tarun ENG 1913 0 1998 M
419753 Foo, William ENG 1876 0 1997 M
406350 Andreev, Peter ENG 1864 0 1998 M
417653 Broadley, Henry ENG 1860 0 1997 M
415669 Zhang, Roy Yinian ENG 1830 0 1997 M
415790 Taylor, Adam A ENG 1821 0 1997 M
415863 Daley, Eugene ENG 1813 0 1997 M
419745 Waddingham, Paul ENG 1686 0 1997 M
417645 Bowler, James P ENG 1672 0 1997 M
421197 Balaji, Ananthanarayan ENG 1597 0 1998 M

Under 12: (for the year 2011)

415820 Haria, Ravi ENG 1952 0 1999 M
421669 Murphy, Conor E ENG 1905 0 1999 M
415804 Wadsworth, Matthew J ENG 1889 0 2000 M
415782 Wang, Xingliang Anna ENG 1763 0 1999 F
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Re: November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by LozCooper » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:28 pm

Under 20 girls:

413488 Khoo, Selina ENG 1979 0 1991 F
413879 Parmar, Amisha ENG 1949 0 1992 F i
414506 Dines, Sheila J ENG 1923 0 1993 F
418366 Hoare, Amy ENG 1921 0 1996 F
470813 Messam-Sparks, Lateefah ENG 1917 0 1992 F
414565 Thilaganathan, Jessica ENG 1888 0 1992 F
400149 Jain, Radha ENG 1853 0 1996 F
412325 Stepanyan, Astghik ENG 1823 0 1994 F
3900282 Ynojosa, Angelica Maria ENG 1821 0 1992 F
469971 Anandajeyarajah, Thilagini ENG 1747 0 1991 F i
412830 Wang, Maria ENG 1732 0 1996 F
408476 Foster, Chantelle L ENG 1701 0 1996 F
470350 Hale, Katie L W ENG 1583 0 1991 F
470600 Lakhani, Anjali ENG 1564 0 1993 F i
415774 Pritchard, Abigail ENG 1563 0 1994 F
408433 Foster, Caroline ENG 1539 0 1994 F
413925 Lee, Jia Ping ENG 1521 0 1995 F
419494 Ehr, Jennifer ENG 1480 0 1996 F
419362 Sainbayar, Amukhulan ENG 1293 0 1991 F

Under 18 girls:

414506 Dines, Sheila J ENG 1923 0 1993 F
412325 Stepanyan, Astghik ENG 1823 0 1994 F
470600 Lakhani, Anjali ENG 1564 0 1993 F i
415774 Pritchard, Abigail ENG 1563 0 1994 F
408433 Foster, Caroline ENG 1539 0 1994 F

Under 16 girls:

418366 Hoare, Amy ENG 1921 0 1996 F
400149 Jain, Radha ENG 1853 0 1996 F
412830 Wang, Maria ENG 1732 0 1996 F
408476 Foster, Chantelle L ENG 1701 0 1996 F
413925 Lee, Jia Ping ENG 1521 0 1995 F
419494 Ehr, Jennifer ENG 1480 0 1996 F

Under 14 girls:

no rated players

Under 12 girls:

415782 Wang, Xingliang Anna ENG 1763 0 1999 F

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Re: November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by John Upham » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:44 pm

LozCooper wrote:
2401584 Peat, Matthew ENG 2059 0 2000 M

is this the same person as

http://grading.bcfservices.org.uk/getre ... ef=139032G

Matthew seemed like a big chap when I met him at Uxbridge ( an under-12 year old).
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Re: November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by Paul Sanders » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:13 pm

John Upham wrote: Matthew seemed like a big chap when I met him at Uxbridge ( an under-12 year old).
Another one to add to the long list of 'benefits of chess playing'?

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Re: November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by LozCooper » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:14 pm

John Upham wrote:
LozCooper wrote:
2401584 Peat, Matthew ENG 2059 0 2000 M

is this the same person as

http://grading.bcfservices.org.uk/getre ... ef=139032G

Matthew seemed like a big chap when I met him at Uxbridge ( an under-12 year old).
Lol. I wonder how many other bogus players are on the list, I'll be checking them all gradually. Not quite as bad as the number of male players with female titles I discovered earlier in the year :shock:

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Re: November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by Howard Grist » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:27 pm

John Upham wrote:is this the same person as

http://grading.bcfservices.org.uk/getre ... ef=139032G
Quite probably. I've changed his DoB on FIDE's database to that on the ECF grading database - which is a couple of decades earlier. He initially played in some Italian tournaments who gave his DoB as 1st Jan 2000.
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Re: November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by Paul Sanders » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:39 pm

For comparison, here are the top French U14s. This has been having me, as a parent, scratching my head and wondering recently.


600261  Lamard, Guillaume  f     FRA 2152 0 1997 M
696358  Bellahcene, Bilel       FRA 2140 0 1998 M
675938  Msellek, Ilyass       FRA 2059 0 1998 M
20632525  Kambrath, Yannick       FRA 2044 0 1997 M
676098  Viennot, Dylan       FRA 2032 0 1997 M
601632  Haussernot, Cecile  wf  wf   FRA 2022 0 1998 F
682896  Gelas, Christophe       FRA 2007 0 1997 M
602337  Purenne, Benoit       FRA 1925 0 1997 M
699616  Eid, Amine       FRA 1917 0 1997 M

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Re: November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by John Upham » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:56 pm

PaulSanders wrote:For comparison, here are the top French U14s. This has been having me, as a parent, scratching my head and wondering recently.


600261  Lamard, Guillaume  f     FRA 2152 0 1997 M
696358  Bellahcene, Bilel       FRA 2140 0 1998 M
675938  Msellek, Ilyass       FRA 2059 0 1998 M
20632525  Kambrath, Yannick       FRA 2044 0 1997 M
676098  Viennot, Dylan       FRA 2032 0 1997 M
601632  Haussernot, Cecile  wf  wf   FRA 2022 0 1998 F
682896  Gelas, Christophe       FRA 2007 0 1997 M
602337  Purenne, Benoit       FRA 1925 0 1997 M
699616  Eid, Amine       FRA 1917 0 1997 M
There is clearly a large gap but some of the English juniors ratings are woefully low compared to the their playing strength. Roy Zhang, Peter Andreev and Tarun Malhotra all have low FIDE ratings compared with their true strengths. It might be that French juniors have access to more FIDE rated events than English juniors do?
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Re: November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by Paul Sanders » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:05 pm

John Upham wrote:There is clearly a large gap but some of the English juniors ratings are woefully low compared to the their playing strength. Roy Zhang, Peter Andreev and Tarun Malhotra all have very low FIDE ratings compared with their true strengths. It might be that French juniors have access to more FIDE rated events than English juniors do?
It has not been our experience at all that English juniors are rated below their true strength, but we can only go on the results we see. A bigger view of the statistics might show a different picture. You would expect an average TPR of about 50-100 above rating due to lag and mishaps along the way, and that is what you often seem to get.

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Re: November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by Alan Walton » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:49 pm

If the English players are under rated because of the lack of FIDE rated games, then why did the current crop who entered the recent Worlds actually perform below these low ratings (excluding Felix & Yang-Fan)

Does this mean other countries are in an even worst position the England with low ratings

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Re: November 2010 FIDE Rating List

Post by Matt Harrison » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:29 pm

It may well just be that at present they aren't yet as strong at FIDE-rated play as they are at the faster rates of play in English congress and league play. Certainly the case for my (admittedly older) son, who is better still at rapidplay and blitz.

Or they may be just penalised by the reduction in the rating floor, a low initial rating and then a long lag from the K factor. If Tarun Malhotra for example had started his rating with his Jan 2010 submissions he would have had an inital rating of 1941 and now be closer (or even above) 2000.

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