BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

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Post by John Moore » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:42 pm

Thx Jonathan - anyone competent. :D

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Post by Jonathan Bryant » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:43 pm

"Anyone more competent than me", I should have said!

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Post by Carl Hibbard » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:47 pm

John Moore wrote:Ban accepted. Can I come back tomorrow and comment on the games, though.
If it's a rook ending then please ignore me though
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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by John Moore » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:50 pm

Carl, we shall rely on your miiddlegame skills.

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Post by Andrew Camp » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:55 pm

David Gilbert wrote:Love Andrew Camp's blog - keep it up Andrew.

http://andrewrcamp.blogspot.com/2011/07 ... l?spref=fb
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Post by Andrew Camp » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:00 pm

Just finished praising Susan in my blog for Round One and now she goes and does it again!

Bravo!!!!!
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Post by Paul McKeown » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:20 pm

John Moore wrote:Hi Paul I would suggest a big bungle.
I would venture to suggest 39. a4 as an improvement, then 39. ba 40. ba. The passed pawn will be a distractor - White will push it hard. Either the Black rook or the Black king will have to intercept. If the rook, then White runs his king to f5 via h2-h3-g4. If the king then eventually the White rook chases over to f7 and White then activates his king by Kf2-e2-d3, Black will hardly want to capture the a-pawn as he could be cut off on the a-file and White will push the c and d pawns. Something like that, wouldn't like to have to win it against an IM, though, and I may be talking arrant balls anyway, but there you have my punt.

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Post by Paul Cooksey » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:51 pm

Paul McKeown wrote:
John Moore wrote:Hi Paul I would suggest a big bungle.
I would venture to suggest 39. a4 as an improvement, then 39. ba 40. ba. The passed pawn will be a distractor - White will push it hard. Either the Black rook or the Black king will have to intercept. If the rook, then White runs his king to f5 via h2-h3-g4. If the king then eventually the White rook chases over to f7 and White then activates his king by Kf2-e2-d3, Black will hardly want to capture the a-pawn as he could be cut off on the a-file and White will push the c and d pawns. Something like that, wouldn't like to have to win it against an IM, though, and I may be talking arrant balls anyway, but there you have my punt.
My first impression was Short was winning too, but maybe that is an illusion based on how smooth the game was up to the ending. I think white does have really big technical problems converting, because his king is so poorly placed.

a4 is another try certainly, but difficult to stop black's rook getting active on either b or e file. Black rook on the 2nd rank and king still passive looks very likely drawn. Might even get Rh1 mate in, if white tries to escape that way. :)

I'll give the standard disclaimer about R+P endings being too hard for me. But after an hour with Fritz, I still haven't got close to a real winning try.


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Post by David Gilbert » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:22 pm

More titanic battles tomorrow. Stuart Conquest v Gawain Jones on board two could be a stonker, and there's no easy games for Michael Adams who's drawn against an in-form Danny Gormally on board four. Another day to look forward to.

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Post by Andrew Camp » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:31 pm

Nigel Short demoted from the main boards and sits on Board 7!!!
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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:42 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:I'll give the standard disclaimer about R+P endings being too hard for me. But after an hour with Fritz, I still haven't got close to a real winning try.
One of the reasons I like watching them is that there doesn't seem to be much point running a computer in the background. The trouble is they (well my old Fritz 7, running on this netbook anyway) think the Philidor position is a win for the pawn so I'm not sure I'd necessarily trust what they've got to say up to that point.


edit: although I should also admit it makes it incredibly frustrating because I'm left without a clue as to what actually is going on.

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Post by Paul Cooksey » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:23 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:
Paul Cooksey wrote:I'll give the standard disclaimer about R+P endings being too hard for me. But after an hour with Fritz, I still haven't got close to a real winning try.
One of the reasons I like watching them is that there doesn't seem to be much point running a computer in the background. The trouble is they (well my old Fritz 7, running on this netbook anyway) think the Philidor position is a win for the pawn so I'm not sure I'd necessarily trust what they've got to say up to that point.


edit: although I should also admit it makes it incredibly frustrating because I'm left without a clue as to what actually is going on.
When I say Fritz, I mean Deep Rybka 4. But somehow I have Fritz stuck as a generic term. (mytonym?). I still hear Malcolm Pein making sarcastic comments in my head. :)

I'd like to think I am contributing something to the analysis, but between the tablebases and it calculating about a billion ply, I suspect not.

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Post by Paul McKeown » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:00 am

Excellent result by Clement Sreeves to beat Nick Pert. I assume 21... Kb8 is a mistake, allowing White's queen to penetrate? Does anyone know anything about this, apparently excellent, young player?

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:19 am

Paul Cooksey wrote:I'd like to think I am contributing something to the analysis, but between the tablebases and it calculating about a billion ply, I suspect not.
Me too (about not contributing much), but I did think, after White captured the Black pawn on f4, that the White rook should have stayed on that file (to cut the Black king off), dropped back to defend the a-pawn, and brought the White king up the board along the g and h-files (to threaten the Black g pawn). Possibly the Black d-pawn becomes too dangerous, though.

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