BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Matthew Turner » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:30 pm

Is Adams losing a pawn with Rg4 after a few exchanges?

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Post by Graham Borrowdale » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:32 pm

In view of the now locked king side should we now expect a draw soon in Gordon-Short? To be followed by a draw in Adams-Zhou?

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Post by Alex Holowczak » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:34 pm

"...the unfortunate loss of a couple of computers last night." -- Andrew Martin

Oh dear. :(

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Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:37 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:"...the unfortunate loss of a couple of computers last night." -- Andrew Martin

Oh dear. :(
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Post by Alex Holowczak » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:44 pm

No idea. The quote was all he said.

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Post by Matthew Turner » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:46 pm

I don't like how that has gone for Short. Is it possible that the top two could lose?

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:49 pm

Short's bishop does look a bit useless. So if the top two lose, Hawkins and Jones could overtake them. That would be a massive upset.
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Post by Alexander Hardwick » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:50 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:I don't like how that has gone for Short. Is it possible that the top two could lose?
I doubt it, to be honest. It seems improbable that Adams can lose from this endgame (just after White's move 31). Meanwhile, in Short's game (just after Black's move 31) the players are beginning to repeat moves with their rooks, and a draw seems likely.

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Post by Graham Borrowdale » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:52 pm

It looks possible they could both lose, but Zhou does not seem to have started any active play. I still think two draws quite soon.

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Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:55 pm

Agreed. Two draws look likely but then a three way tie with Hawkins might be the result - which would give the England selectors a lot to think about ...
Presumably they play rapid first and blitz if necessary. I don't know, has anyone actually seen Hawkins play blitz?!

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Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:55 pm

Alexander Hardwick wrote:It seems improbable that Adams can lose from this endgame (just after White's move 31) ....
Improbably why? He seems to have a lot of weak pawns and weak squares. Not saying he will lose but I'm not sure I'd be quite so confident that he won't.

As for Gordon-Short. White may well just be shuffling to make the time control. Let's see.

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Post by Matthew Turner » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:57 pm

I am pretty confident that Gordon and Zhou are both playing to win (i.e. would turn down a draw).

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Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:01 pm

Can anyone tell if the position repeated three times in Gordon-Short, I would guess not, but it felt possible that the players might have repeated without realising or claiming a draw.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:03 pm

How does either side seek progress on board one?

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Alexander Hardwick » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:03 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote: Improbably why? He seems to have a lot of weak pawns and weak squares. Not saying he will lose but I'm not sure I'd be quite so confident that he won't.
OK, now I have to try to back up my unfounded assertion. :| (As after White's move 32) Zhou's rook seems misplaced. White appears to have the important squares on the g-file covered. (Of course, now I realise that White's rook, by the same rationale, is misplaced too). I also thought that White had good chances based on creating an outside passed pawn with b5 (having overlooked Black's move 31...d5, which prevents this).

Actually, I take back what I said. Black has simply relocated his rook to the d-file, where it becomes a strong piece. And if anything, White's king is misplaced, and White may have trouble defending the b-pawn. I've been converted and I suddenly think Black's position looks rather better. :D
Jonathan Bryant wrote: As for Gordon-Short. White may well just be shuffling to make the time control. Let's see.
Good point, that hadn't occurred to me. I was wondering why both players were finding as many ways as possible of shifting pieces around without forcing a draw. :oops:

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