BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by John Moore » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:53 pm

Think that we had better get on with it and agree two draws.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by John Moore » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:55 pm

But Nigel will be happy with the slight change in position. Both are still drawn aren't they!?

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by John Moore » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:56 pm

Getting pretty close to TableBase in Mickey's game.

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Post by ThomasThorpe » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:58 pm

From the looks of things for me Nigel Short is going to be slowly grounded out of the game. White is finally making some progress. Adams should draw. Gawain might win his position if he plays accurately. Might see a tiebreak!!!!

Do we know if the tiebreaks are being broadcast?!

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:00 pm

John Moore wrote:Getting pretty close to TableBase in Mickey's game.
If the rooks take the pawns on h5 and b4, that's drawn (according to Shredder's tablebases). And it just happened. We can now watch it with tablebases looking over their shoulders (well, they will likely agree a draw, but still).
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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Alexander Hardwick » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:01 pm

ThomasThorpe wrote:From the looks of things for me Nigel Short is going to be slowly grounded out of the game. White is finally making some progress.
Really? It looks to me as though Gordon has found another piece to shuffle around for a while. :D
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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:01 pm

John Moore wrote:Getting pretty close to TableBase in Mickey's game.
And it came to pass.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by John Moore » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:01 pm

Thanks Chris - you can now update us!!!

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by John Moore » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:03 pm

Adams might be a Tablebase draw - I wouldn't fancy being Black.

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Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:04 pm

John Moore wrote:Thanks Chris - you can now update us!!!
Black's only losing moves (move 50) are to move the king to the a-file (dropping the pawn), or taking the f4 pawn with the rook (losing the rook). Everything else is drawn. Don't think this will present Zhou with too many problems.

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Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:06 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Everything else is drawn. Don't think this will present Zhou with too many problems.
Can't Black just push his pawn a couple of squares then look to give up his rook for WHite's pawn when it gets to the 7th or something. No time to get back. Should be simple?

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Graham Borrowdale » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:06 pm

Gordon's plan must be to play Nb2 followed by b4, then maybe b5, followed eventually by c4 and c5, somehow. Assuming black does nothing.

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Post by John Moore » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:07 pm

Thanks Chris. Trouble is humans aren't Tablebases - they get tired and they are playing Adams. I know I asked for the Tablebase, trouble is you don't make 1 bad move. You make 20 slightly sub-standard ones.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:07 pm

John Moore wrote:Adams might be a Tablebase draw - I wouldn't fancy being Black.
There's a line where Black gets far enough forward with King and pawn to allow the White pawn to queen for the rook, and end up drawing that way. That seems to be why most everything is drawn here. (As Jonathan B just suggested).

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by James Coleman » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:08 pm

it's absolutely trivial now

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