BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:56 pm

All academic now, but why not push the f-pawn on move 122? 122...f3 seems OK.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:57 pm

Paul McKeown wrote:Thinking about it, why did White not simply swap queen's with 126. Qxd7+? Wouldn't that have been a winning pawn endgame?
Actually no, Black would have had both f6 and g6 to provide access to g5, so White could not have won back the f-pawn by zug.

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Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:57 pm

Paul McKeown wrote:Thinking about it, why did White not simply swap queen's with 126. Qxd7+? Wouldn't that have been a winning pawn endgame?
Can the Black king get to g5 and save the f4 pawn?


EDIT: beaten to the punch on the last two posts. Curses!

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Alex Holowczak » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:58 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Why didn't Black capture on d4 with the c-pawn? (Wonder when the hall is locked up :lol: )
There are supervisors there all day, so it can be locked up at any time without a problem. I'm not even sure the facility is ever locked, actually. Maybe I just wasn't there late/early enough to experience it. Adjournment envelopes will not be necessary. :)

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:59 pm

Should still be drawn (I think).

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:59 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:
Paul McKeown wrote:Thinking about it, why did White not simply swap queen's with 126. Qxd7+? Wouldn't that have been a winning pawn endgame?
Can the Black king get to g5 and save the f4 pawn?


EDIT: beaten to the punch on the last two posts. Curses!
It isn't just that g5 can be accessed, but that there are two back squares providing access to it, therefore there can never be zugszwang. That is the important point.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Andrew Stone » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:00 pm

a draw surely?

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:00 pm

Paul McKeown wrote:
Jonathan Bryant wrote:
Paul McKeown wrote:Thinking about it, why did White not simply swap queen's with 126. Qxd7+? Wouldn't that have been a winning pawn endgame?
Can the Black king get to g5 and save the f4 pawn?


EDIT: beaten to the punch on the last two posts. Curses!
It isn't just that g5 can be accessed, but that there are two back squares providing access to it, therefore there can never be zugszwang. That is the important point.
Technically, the two squares providing access have to be adjacent.

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Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:01 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Technically, the two squares providing access have to be adjacent.
Which they are.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:02 pm

Andrew Stone wrote:a draw surely?

How about ... Kd7 trying to round up the e5 pawn and if Q goes to defend it then Qc3+.

Also, for all Airplane fans still not in bed, don't call me shirley.



EDIT: Beaten to it by Pert now FFS

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Post by Graham Borrowdale » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:06 pm

Draw - after all that!

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Post by Andrew Stone » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:07 pm

Pre-arranged!

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Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:07 pm

Rousing effort, someone get those men brandies.

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Post by Andrew Stone » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:08 pm

Brandies? Do they have those in Sheffield? Didn't see any when I was at Uni there

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:09 pm

Paul McKeown wrote:
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Technically, the two squares providing access have to be adjacent.
Which they are.
Yeah, but you just said "two squares", you weren't specific enough. :mrgreen:

Congratulations to Pert and Jones on a magnificent and hard-fought draw!

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