England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:01 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:In news elsewhere, none of the Norwegian women has lost yet :P
Indeed, Magnus' sister (?) has drawn
Bo. 24 Montenegro Rtg - 28 Norway Rtg 1½: ½
14.1 WGM Vojinovic Jovana 2346 - WFM Johnsen Sylvia 2028
14.2 WFM Milovic Aleksandra 2171 - Reppen Ellisiv 1949 1 - 0
14.3 WFM Stojanovic Marija R 2095 - Carlsen Ellen Oen 1931 ½ - ½
14.4 Blagojevic Tijana 1925 - Hansen Erle Andrea Marki 1762
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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:15 pm

chess-results.com is insisting Howell's game was drawn, but the official site disagrees. Pert has played 43.Bxg6, which looks interesting, so let's hope his opponent slips up there. Adams clearly can't win and has to play accurately for a draw, from the looks of it.

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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Paul Dargan » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:17 pm

Yep Pert's Bxg6 looks like an excellent shot ... though sadly as far as the match goes it's probably just a case of losing 2.5-1.4 instead of 3-1


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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:23 pm

Switzerland have beaten Ukraine 3-1
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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:27 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Jonathan Rogers wrote:In news elsewhere, none of the Norwegian women has lost yet :P
Indeed, Magnus' sister (?) has drawn
Bo. 24 Montenegro Rtg - 28 Norway Rtg 1½: ½
14.1 WGM Vojinovic Jovana 2346 - WFM Johnsen Sylvia 2028
14.2 WFM Milovic Aleksandra 2171 - Reppen Ellisiv 1949 1 - 0
14.3 WFM Stojanovic Marija R 2095 - Carlsen Ellen Oen 1931 ½ - ½
14.4 Blagojevic Tijana 1925 - Hansen Erle Andrea Marki 1762
Yes, she is his sister

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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:29 pm

Mick Norris wrote:Switzerland have beaten Ukraine 3-1
Ukraine are having their Russia/India moment this time around (recalling an event where Russia finished 14th - I can't remember which one - and Dresden 2006 where the very highly rated Indians finished 33rd).

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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:46 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:Switzerland have beaten Ukraine 3-1
Ukraine are having their Russia/India moment this time around (recalling an event where Russia finished 14th - I can't remember which one - and Dresden 2006 where the very highly rated Indians finished 33rd).
:cry:

In other developments, I'll actually be around when the results are published tonight; so hopefully I can do the pairings properly for England's scoregroup tonight. :D

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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:07 pm

It now says -1000 for Pert's game, so presumably 3-1 (not that the game was remotely salvageable anyway). Pity. Will be interesting to see the selection for the last two rounds. Hopefully not ties against Russia or Ukraine!

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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:29 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:It now says -1000 for Pert's game, so presumably 3-1 (not that the game was remotely salvageable anyway). Pity. Will be interesting to see the selection for the last two rounds. Hopefully not ties against Russia or Ukraine!
Ukraine lost yet again today, so we still have the same matchpoints as them...

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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:43 pm

Bo. 22 England Rtg - 16 Greece Rtg 2 : 2
12.1 IM Houska Jovanka 2415 - IM Dembo Yelena 2468 0 - 1
12.2 IM Ciuksyte Dagne 2327 - WGM Botsari Anna-Maria 2313 1 - 0
12.3 WFM Yurenok Maria S 2106 - WGM Makropoulou Marina 2201 1 - 0
12.4 WFM Hegarty Sarah N 2060 - WIM Fakhiridou Ekaterini 2180 0 - 1

Bo. 24 Montenegro Rtg - 28 Norway Rtg 2½:1½
14.1 WGM Vojinovic Jovana 2346 - WFM Johnsen Sylvia 2028 1 - 0
14.2 WFM Milovic Aleksandra 2171 - Reppen Ellisiv 1949 1 - 0
14.3 WFM Stojanovic Marija R 2095 - Carlsen Ellen Oen 1931 ½ - ½
14.4 Blagojevic Tijana 1925 - Hansen Erle Andrea Marki 1762 0 - 1

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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:46 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:In other developments, I'll actually be around when the results are published tonight; so hopefully I can do the pairings properly for England's scoregroup tonight. :D
The results system has the wrong score for the England match, so not easy to work it out (i.e. will they do the pairings based on the right or wrong score, and does it make any difference as we lost 3-1 rather than 2.5-1.5 as shown?)
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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:49 pm

remembering that we do have two teams :roll: England's women made probably their best result today in drawing with Greece, which involved wins against two WGMs on boards two and three.

Sarah Hegarty though lost again (and so has lost all her games except against Norway). Is it a student thing perhaps (David Howell being the other player who has come mid-term)? I think that she should have to be dropped for the next round now that the team is starting to gain some momentum and might still be able to achieve its pre-tournament goals, even though this was probably not the original game plan (since she missed the first few rounds already). The mens' team might be different; there isn't much momentum to maintain.

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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by John Moore » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:51 pm

Well, the Ukraine tomorrow would be a bit of a worry. Who are you going to play in the next two rounds - back to Rogers J's conumdrum from some time back. Now, you have to play Adams, Short and Jones don't you. But does David H want to play again or do you play Nick in the last two rounds.

Incidentally Switzerland-Ukraine is an incredible result. I sort of assumed Switzerland might make 1 if Viktor was playing - he would make a half and somebody else would make a half. Even that would have been a surprise. But Viktor didn't and they made 3-1!!!

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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:55 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:remembering that we do have two teams :roll: England's women made probably their best result today in drawing with Greece, which involved wins against two WGMs on boards two and three.

Sarah Hegarty though lost again (and so has lost all her games except against Norway). Is it a student thing perhaps (David Howell being the other player who has come mid-term)? I think that she should have to be dropped for the next round now that the team is starting to gain some momentum and might still be able to achieve its pre-tournament goals, even though this was probably not the original game plan (since she missed the first few rounds already). The mens' team might be different; there isn't much momentum to maintain.
Absolutely, the women are seeded 22nd and currently in 22nd position, which is OK, let's hope they can have a good finish
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Re: England teams for 2011 European Team Championship

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:57 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Alex Holowczak wrote:In other developments, I'll actually be around when the results are published tonight; so hopefully I can do the pairings properly for England's scoregroup tonight. :D
The results system has the wrong score for the England match, so not easy to work it out (i.e. will they do the pairings based on the right or wrong score, and does it make any difference as we lost 3-1 rather than 2.5-1.5 as shown?)
Well, based on the results as shown on the results page - which they've now published - here's my attempt:

Sweden downfloat from the scoregroup above

Denmark v Sweden
England v Iceland
Israel v Austria
Ukraine downfloat

If England lose 1/2 point, then they'll move down two spots behind Israel and Ukraine. I'll work that out now...

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