2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

The very latest International round up of English news.
Steven DuCharme
Posts: 278
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:51 pm
Location: West Bend,WI USA

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Steven DuCharme » Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:37 pm

Will Gukesh ding Liren?
I float like a pawn island and sting like an ignored knight :mrgreen:

Nick Burrows
Posts: 1742
Joined: Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:15 pm

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Nick Burrows » Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:40 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:33 pm
Abasov didn't come via the Grand Swiss, he came via the World Cup.
That happens to be true! 1 spot to the winner of both the World Cup and Grand Swiss in that case

User avatar
MJMcCready
Posts: 3279
Joined: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:30 pm

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by MJMcCready » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:46 pm

Who won the candidates in the end?

LawrenceCooper
Posts: 7288
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:36 pm

MJMcCready wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:46 pm
Who won the candidates in the end?
Gukesh & Tan.

User avatar
MJMcCready
Posts: 3279
Joined: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:30 pm

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by MJMcCready » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:46 pm

Gukesh and who?

LawrenceCooper
Posts: 7288
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:02 pm

MJMcCready wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:46 pm
Gukesh and who?
Gukesh & Tan Zhongyi.

Mick Norris
Posts: 10411
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:12 am
Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:25 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:33 pm
Abasov didn't come via the Grand Swiss, he came via the World Cup.
And only because Carlsen, who qualified via the World Cup, declined his place
Any postings on here represent my personal views

LawrenceCooper
Posts: 7288
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:37 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:25 pm
IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:33 pm
Abasov didn't come via the Grand Swiss, he came via the World Cup.
And only because Carlsen, who qualified via the World Cup, declined his place
True enough, but the list of players he did beat in that event was amazing.

Geoff Chandler
Posts: 3499
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:36 pm
Location: Under Cover

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Geoff Chandler » Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:34 am

Gukesh and Zhongyi Tan who won their respective candidates were both born on the 29th May...er...that's it.

User avatar
Matt Mackenzie
Posts: 5272
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:51 pm
Location: Millom, Cumbria

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:11 pm

It is a genuinely striking coincidence, so not much more needs to be added.
"Set up your attacks so that when the fire is out, it isn't out!" (H N Pillsbury)

LawrenceCooper
Posts: 7288
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu May 09, 2024 12:24 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh8xiGKiPXQ Nepo & Fabi share their thoughts on the Candidates and other chess related topics.

User avatar
Chris Goodall
Posts: 1058
Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:40 pm

Re: 2024 FIDE Candidates Toronto April 3-23

Post by Chris Goodall » Fri May 10, 2024 9:54 am

  • I guess Gukesh is going to be my pick for Real GM™ in 2024 then :D
  • The first open WCC match between two protonymous individuals. Though Gukesh like Friðrik Ólafsson is properly addressed by his given name, and Ding like Leko Peter goes around with his surname in front.
  • Still, I would expect the media to expand his name to "Gukesh Dommaraju" at least if he wins. Gukesh D looks like we've either forgotten to ask him his surname, or he is a purveyor of sicc beats like Jessie J and Cardi B.
  • I like the World Cup qualifying path. I like the concept that if a Tanzanian shepherd girl gets struck by lightning just right and wakes up an invincible chess machine, she has a narrow path to becoming the next World Champion without playing in a ton of tournaments and becoming the 6th best player in the world. It's old school, like when winning the British qualified you for the West Europe Zonal.
  • Still, there seems a good statistical case that, for a given level of ability, being better at beating tournament back-markers probably makes you a worse bet against the current World Champion, because it indicates that your performance variance is lower. This may have been more of a thing when Carlsen was WC.
Donate to Sabrina's fundraiser at https://gofund.me/aeae42c7 to support victims of sexual abuse in the chess world.

Northumberland webmaster, Jesmond CC something-or-other. Views mine. Definitely below the Goodall Line.