Brothers playing for England

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Brothers playing for England

Post by MJMcCready » Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:36 am

How many times have brothers played for England and been on the same team? I know Jonathan Penrose's brothers were strong but I don't recall them playing for England together. At present the Ledger brothers are representing England and playing for England at the FIDE seniors champsionships down there in Albania. Without proof otherwise, I am inclined to think this may be a first.

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by Alan Walton » Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:40 am

I highly suspect the Pert's would have played for England together; especially as juniors

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by MJMcCready » Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:53 am

Alan Walton wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:40 am
I highly suspect the Pert's would have played for England together; especially as juniors
Ah yes, many thanks. I forgot about them even though I played Nick once in Hitchin.

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:56 am

More recently there's been Stanley and Frankie Badacsonyi and Amandeep and Adamjeet Singh.

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by MJMcCready » Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:58 am

Okay, many thanks.

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by MJMcCready » Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:59 am

Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:56 am
More recently there's been Stanley and Frankie Badacsonyi and Amandeep and Adamjeet Singh.
Is this also at Junior level?

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by Alan Walton » Fri Apr 24, 2026 1:29 pm

Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:56 am
More recently there's been Stanley and Frankie Badacsonyi and Amandeep and Adamjeet Singh.
I doubt the Badacsonyi would have played together in the same junior teams since the ages are too far apart (3 years); the Singh's may have but it would have to have been this year when Adamjeet would be in his last for the U11 and Amandeep playing as an U9 on the bottom boards

Obviously all of them would have played for England at some stage but that wasn't the question

I also have an issue around these events like the seniors when saying you are playing for England, yes the first team since there is selection crieria (possibly??), but the others are on a volunteer basis so it is just a title and technically not playing for England officially

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Fri Apr 24, 2026 1:38 pm

Alan Walton wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2026 1:29 pm
Obviously all of them would have played for England at some stage but that wasn't the question
Yes, good point. I didn't read the first post properly.

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by John Saunders » Fri Apr 24, 2026 3:13 pm

1963 - John & Norman Littlewood play for England/Great Britain* in the annual match vs Netherlands...

https://www.saund.org.uk/britbase/pgn/1 ... iewer.html

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by MJMcCready » Fri Apr 24, 2026 3:35 pm

Thanks John

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Apr 24, 2026 7:49 pm

John Saunders wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2026 3:13 pm
1963 - John & Norman Littlewood play for England/Great Britain* in the annual match vs Netherlands...
Also in several of the subsequent years.

They both played for England in Olympiad teams, but never in the same one.

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by John Upham » Fri Apr 24, 2026 7:58 pm

John Saunders wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2026 3:13 pm
1963 - John & Norman Littlewood play for England/Great Britain* in the annual match vs Netherlands...

https://www.saund.org.uk/britbase/pgn/1 ... iewer.html

(* usually referred to as 'England' in the chess press but Scots and Welsh players took part from time to time)
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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Fri Apr 24, 2026 10:11 pm

England would have to go some to emulate these guys...

https://s1.chess-results.com/tnr1396652 ... 5&SNode=S0

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Sat Apr 25, 2026 12:19 am

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2026 10:11 pm
England would have to go some to emulate these guys...
https://s1.chess-results.com/tnr1396652 ... 5&SNode=S0
The team is called "Six Brothers", suggesting they have two more in reserve!

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Re: Brothers playing for England

Post by MJMcCready » Sat Apr 25, 2026 1:24 am

Twice as good as ours then.

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