"Oliver Twist ... is a great book."

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"Oliver Twist ... is a great book."

Post by Simon Spivack » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:15 pm

Page thirty-two of the Sunday Telegraph today has a big article devoted to Hou Yifan.

Is it premature to discuss replacing Judith Polgar as the number one female player?

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Re: "Oliver Twist ... is a great book."

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:18 pm

Simon Spivack wrote:Page thirty-two of the Sunday Telegraph today has a big article devoted to Hou Yifan.

Is it premature to discuss replacing Judith Polgar as the number one female player?
Dunno. It was only the Oliver Twist reference that got me to read the article. :)

Did Dickens play chess or feature it in his novels?

EDIT: To answer the actual question, I think this quote from the article sums it up: "she continues to build on a talent whose full potential is still many years from being reached." I think it is fair to say she has the potential to surpass Judit Polgar's achievements, though she probably still has a way to go yet before reaching that level.

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Re: "Oliver Twist ... is a great book."

Post by Richard James » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:17 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Did Dickens play chess or feature it in his novels?
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/dickens.html

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Re: "Oliver Twist ... is a great book."

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:18 pm

Richard James wrote:
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Did Dickens play chess or feature it in his novels?
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/dickens.html
Thanks, Richard!

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Post by Simon Spivack » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:22 pm

There are some who disparage the achievements of our own grandmasters, which can lead to a defensive attitude.

One of our players, a very pleasant fellow, was rated number one in the world ahead of Ivanchuk. I can't recall whether it was for under eighteen or nineteen. He did not go on to become a world class player in the sense of being in the top twenty, although he is a GM.

I am genuinely uncertain as to whether Hou Yifan will become a top player irrespective of gender. I am not convinced there is the evidence, one way or the other. "Potential" is not something that can easily be measured, it is often merely guessed at.

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Re: "Oliver Twist ... is a great book."

Post by Gavin Strachan » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:26 am

that is pretty random subject title v content! I'll think I'll start a new thread: "My mum likes chips" and it's about Kasparov.

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Re: "Oliver Twist ... is a great book."

Post by Simon Spivack » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:47 am

Gavin Strachan wrote:that is pretty random subject title v content!
Typical Essex boy: he can't read! :lol:

The title is a quote. It can be found in the article.
Gavin Strachan wrote:I'll think I'll start a new thread: "My mum likes chips" and it's about Kasparov.
If Garry comments about your mum's fondness for chips, then why not?

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Post by Gavin Strachan » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:06 pm

Simon Spivack wrote:
Gavin Strachan wrote:that is pretty random subject title v content!
Typical Essex boy: he can't read! :lol:

The title is a quote. It can be found in the article.
Gavin Strachan wrote:I'll think I'll start a new thread: "My mum likes chips" and it's about Kasparov.
If Garry comments about your mum's fondness for chips, then why not?

Expect me to click a link and read it. pah. :shock:

FYI: Essex boy - original dickension insult that historically came before Essex girl jokes were invented.

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