Anand v Gelfand

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Paul McKeown » Mon May 21, 2012 1:47 pm

14... Qf6!? That's a move. Is it good?

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon May 21, 2012 1:48 pm

Maybe the rule where in the event of a draw, the defending champion retains his title, needs to be brought back? That way, one player will always be losing the match, and so has to chase it.

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by James Coleman » Mon May 21, 2012 1:49 pm

I think Anand has really good prospects to equalise the match today, Black's position looks difficult. Terrible in fact.

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Matthew Turner » Mon May 21, 2012 1:53 pm

I thought Gelfand might play Qf6 and I didn't know why the computers weren't suggesting it. I do now.

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Paul McKeown » Mon May 21, 2012 1:55 pm

Seems that Gelfand has thrown this game away. The whole plan with Re8 and Qf6 looks dodgy.

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Matthew Turner » Mon May 21, 2012 1:56 pm

Whooa, Gelfand resigned. Surely he should have carried on for a bit

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Mon May 21, 2012 1:56 pm

Gelfand has resigned. I suppose he didn't want to grovel after Nc6, keeping the queen, but still losing. Psychologically, is resigning like that showing respect, or is it a case of trying to move on to the next game as quickly as possible?
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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Paul McKeown » Mon May 21, 2012 1:56 pm

Gelfand has resigned according to my display????

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Paul McKeown » Mon May 21, 2012 1:57 pm

Mega balls up.

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Mick Norris » Mon May 21, 2012 1:57 pm

Match has come alive with Leko in the commentary box

17 move win, wow
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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Mon May 21, 2012 1:58 pm

Mick Norris wrote:Match has come alive with Leko in the commentary box

17 move win, wow
What is the record for shortest win in a WCC match? (Not counting the defaults in the Fischer-Spassky and Kramnik-Topalov matches).

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Ray Sayers » Mon May 21, 2012 2:00 pm

He just didn't see Qf2. To be fair, neither did the commentary team. Anand found it really quickly though!

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Paul McKeown » Mon May 21, 2012 2:06 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:Match has come alive with Leko in the commentary box

17 move win, wow
What is the record for shortest win in a WCC match? (Not counting the defaults in the Fischer-Spassky and Kramnik-Topalov matches).
I think this might be the record. I can only think of the 19 mover between Steinitz and Zuke.

A swift DB lookup shows that as the 20th match game, 1886, the game being played in New Orleans. A Steinitz Gambit!
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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by Ian Kingston » Mon May 21, 2012 2:11 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:Match has come alive with Leko in the commentary box

17 move win, wow
What is the record for shortest win in a WCC match? (Not counting the defaults in the Fischer-Spassky and Kramnik-Topalov matches).
A quick database check (using ChessBase to search for 'World Championship' in the Tournament field) shows nothing shorter than a 19 move win for Steinitz against Zukertort in 1886.

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Re: Anand v Gelfand

Post by JustinHorton » Mon May 21, 2012 2:43 pm

At 1145 your time, i.e. not long before the game started, we had a power cut.

The power came on again about five minutes ago.

And it turns out I've missed everything.
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